Whitlock Part 2....

Deberg_1990 · 04-18-2007, 06:18 PM

Yes, its mostly about the (old hat) Imus stuff, but some of it could actually be applied to the Cho events of the past few days...

Jason is making too much sense...good read...

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/74573.html

Pop culture is huge threat
Dangerous influences in entertainment are impeding parents as they attempt to raise their children.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

This column will return to the hardcore sports world soon. We’ll get back to the Royals, Trent Green, Will Shields, the draft and Brandon Rush’s stay-or-go decision (he should stay) in just a few days.

But I still have a couple of things I need to say about Don Imus and the very necessary discussions his ignorant attempt at humor has spawned.

Today I want to talk about pop culture in general and hip-hop/prison culture in particular and why we need to rethink old ideas about their ability to influence us.

Pop culture is on steroids now. It’s bigger and badder than it’s ever been. It’s pervasive, inescapable and powerful enough to override good parenting.

Read that again: It’s pervasive, inescapable and powerful enough to override good parenting.

The naïve argue that hip hop and other youth cultures are harmless. Good parents know better. They realize that it is no longer 1968. They know there’s a television in every room, wireless Internet all over the house, an iPod for every child, a cable channel for every perversion, call-waiting, text messaging, DVR and “Flavor of Love.”

Pop culture is like ants in the spring. You can’t keep ants out of your house, and you can’t keep pop culture out of your kid’s head.

This isn’t the good old days when only a select few people had access to your child’s brain. Remember when there was one TV, three channels, a single record player and one phone line for an entire house? It was easy to parent then because there were far fewer voices to compete against.

The Beatles might have sung a song that made old folks uncomfortable, but a child didn’t hear that tune very often. There was no television network for young rock stars to play their music nonstop and espouse their immature life philosophies on a daily basis. Just think of the destruction had Jim Morrison or Jimi Hendrix had access to your child’s mind 24 hours a day.

Snoop Dogg can speak to your child daily, and he does. He and many other entertainers of every color are abusing that privilege. They’re corrupting minds and redefining cultural norms that were once set by people of intelligence.

This is most problematic in America’s black community because the family structure for black children is too often unstable. One mother working hard to raise a child or two has less access to her children’s brains than BET — Black Exploitation Television.

I was lucky enough to have two good parents who, although divorced, remained heavily involved in my life and my brother’s. I vividly remember being a latch-key kid as a grade-schooler and watching “Leave it to Beaver” while I waited for my brother to get home from junior high.

Do you think there are kids at home alone now who watch “Leave it to Beaver” rather than Black Exploitation Television, MTV or playing a violent video game?

Kids are the same. The world is drastically different. We have to adjust.

When do kids have quiet time and the time to read? They throw on iPods and tune out the world their parents have created.

When I taped the “The Oprah Winfrey Show” on Monday, you could feel the passion the mostly female audience had about the negative influences of hip-hop/prison culture. Pop culture, not just hip hop, is interfering with their ability to properly raise their children. They haven’t figured out why and how pop culture is short-circuiting their efforts. They just know that it has, and they want it to stop.

It takes a village.

And right now our idiots are allowed to run wild in the minds of our children. It wasn’t like that 30 years ago. The idiots used to make rebellious songs that we might hear once a day on the radio, and we might see the idiots three times a year on “Soul Train” or “American Bandstand.” The idiots were contained. And they were pretty much nonviolent.

The idiots are running the world now, and they’re telling our kids to sell crack and shoot each other over the slightest disrespect. We’ve even dressed the idiots up and passed them off as respectable, influential members of society. Snoop Dogg is as mainstream as apple pie.

Any intelligent person who thinks today’s pop culture is as harmless as yesterday’s hasn’t raised a child, or he has a financial stake in the continuation of the cultural genocide.

Silock · 04-18-2007, 06:24 PM

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has a financial stake in the continuation of the cultural genocide

Like yourself, Jason?

I seriously hope he rides this meal ticket out of town.

Hammock Parties · 04-18-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

I seriously hope he rides this meal ticket out of town.

Damn, I don't.

Silock · 04-18-2007, 06:39 PM

Why not?

He writes decent columns when it has nothing to do with KC sports, but that's about it. I rarely, if ever, have agreed with his take on anything sports-related.

kstater · 04-18-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Why not?

He writes decent columns when it has nothing to do with KC sports, but that's about it. I rarely, if ever, have agreed with his take on anything sports-related.

Oh come on you don't like Jeff George or Ball State?

04-18-2007, 06:42 PM

I'm surprised he's not crying that he didn't get more face-time on Oprah.

Silock · 04-18-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm surprised he's not crying that he didn't get more face-time IN Oprah.

Fixed!

Deberg_1990 · 04-18-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

I rarely, if ever, have agreed with his take on anything sports-related.

Ill bet hes right, far more than he is wrong.

I remember (I think it was 2004) when i vehemently disagreed with him about Ryan Sims after a pre-season game where Sims was butt whipped continously. I actually thought Sims would eventually come around....

Sure, he likes to ruffle feathers, but most of the time he makes alot of sense.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 04-18-2007, 06:54 PM

I think he nailed it as well as anyone could with that article. My avatar and title make me feel dirty now.

**KcMizzou** · 04-18-2007, 07:01 PM

Ok... say he's right. Where does it all lead? Censorship?

I'm sure as hell not for that.

In the end, it's personal and parental responsibility.

Yes, your children will be exposed to these things. It's your job to teach then the difference between reality and entertainment.

Deberg_1990 · 04-18-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Ok... say he's right. Where does it all lead? Censorship?

Thats always a posibility.....but i think hes just trying to say the entertainment industry, and society in general has a moral responsibilty to live up to. Especially when you stop to consider how easy it is for kids to get access to most of this junk. They are bombarded with it every second.

**KcMizzou** · 04-18-2007, 07:09 PM

The Imus media circus, combined with this tragedy have sent us in a scarey direction, in my opinion.

I just wonder what, exactly, people like jwhit want us to do about it.

Do you want the government to step in and censor music and film? I'm not at all comfortable with that.

If not that, then.... what?

Deberg_1990 · 04-18-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Do you want the government to step in and censor music and film? I'm not at all comfortable with that.

Hell no, has he ever once mentioned censorship?? He just wants the entertainment and rap industy in particular to police themselves....

**KcMizzou** · 04-18-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Thats always a posibility.....but i think hes just trying to say the entertainment industry, and society in general has a moral responsibilty to live up to.

I agree with that... to a point. But to expect everyone to just decide to suddenly "play nice" is stupid.

They wont... everyone knows it. Hell, I enjoy 90's rap... Snoop, Dr. Dre, Tupac, etc. Gangsta rap may die, but you know... as sure as I do, that something will take it's place.

So what do we do?

**KcMizzou** · 04-18-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Hell no, has he ever once mentioned censorship?? He just wants the entertainment and rap industy in particular to police themselves....

That's pissing in the wind.

04-18-2007, 06:18 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Whitlock Part 2.... Yes, its mostly about the (old hat) Imus stuff, but some of it could actually be applied to the Cho events of the past few days... Jason is making too much sense...good read... http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/74573.html Pop culture is huge threat Dangerous influences in entertainment are impeding parents as they attempt to raise their children. By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist This column will return to the hardcore sports world soon. We’ll get back to the Royals, Trent Green, Will Shields, the draft and Brandon Rush’s stay-or-go decision (he should stay) in just a few days. But I still have a couple of things I need to say about Don Imus and the very necessary discussions his ignorant attempt at humor has spawned. Today I want to talk about pop culture in general and hip-hop/prison culture in particular and why we need to rethink old ideas about their ability to influence us. Pop culture is on steroids now. It’s bigger and badder than it’s ever been. It’s pervasive, inescapable and powerful enough to override good parenting. Read that again: It’s pervasive, inescapable and powerful enough to override good parenting. The naïve argue that hip hop and other youth cultures are harmless. Good parents know better. They realize that it is no longer 1968. They know there’s a television in every room, wireless Internet all over the house, an iPod for every child, a cable channel for every perversion, call-waiting, text messaging, DVR and “Flavor of Love.” Pop culture is like ants in the spring. You can’t keep ants out of your house, and you can’t keep pop culture out of your kid’s head. This isn’t the good old days when only a select few people had access to your child’s brain. Remember when there was one TV, three channels, a single record player and one phone line for an entire house? It was easy to parent then because there were far fewer voices to compete against. The Beatles might have sung a song that made old folks uncomfortable, but a child didn’t hear that tune very often. There was no television network for young rock stars to play their music nonstop and espouse their immature life philosophies on a daily basis. Just think of the destruction had Jim Morrison or Jimi Hendrix had access to your child’s mind 24 hours a day. Snoop Dogg can speak to your child daily, and he does. He and many other entertainers of every color are abusing that privilege. They’re corrupting minds and redefining cultural norms that were once set by people of intelligence. This is most problematic in America’s black community because the family structure for black children is too often unstable. One mother working hard to raise a child or two has less access to her children’s brains than BET — Black Exploitation Television. I was lucky enough to have two good parents who, although divorced, remained heavily involved in my life and my brother’s. I vividly remember being a latch-key kid as a grade-schooler and watching “Leave it to Beaver” while I waited for my brother to get home from junior high. Do you think there are kids at home alone now who watch “Leave it to Beaver” rather than Black Exploitation Television, MTV or playing a violent video game? Kids are the same. The world is drastically different. We have to adjust. When do kids have quiet time and the time to read? They throw on iPods and tune out the world their parents have created. When I taped the “The Oprah Winfrey Show” on Monday, you could feel the passion the mostly female audience had about the negative influences of hip-hop/prison culture. Pop culture, not just hip hop, is interfering with their ability to properly raise their children. They haven’t figured out why and how pop culture is short-circuiting their efforts. They just know that it has, and they want it to stop. It takes a village. And right now our idiots are allowed to run wild in the minds of our children. It wasn’t like that 30 years ago. The idiots used to make rebellious songs that we might hear once a day on the radio, and we might see the idiots three times a year on “Soul Train” or “American Bandstand.” The idiots were contained. And they were pretty much nonviolent. The idiots are running the world now, and they’re telling our kids to sell crack and shoot each other over the slightest disrespect. We’ve even dressed the idiots up and passed them off as respectable, influential members of society. Snoop Dogg is as mainstream as apple pie. Any intelligent person who thinks today’s pop culture is as harmless as yesterday’s hasn’t raised a child, or he has a financial stake in the continuation of the cultural genocide.
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04-18-2007, 06:42 PM	#6
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KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	Ok... say he's right. Where does it all lead? Censorship? I'm sure as hell not for that. In the end, it's personal and parental responsibility. Yes, your children will be exposed to these things. It's your job to teach then the difference between reality and entertainment.
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04-18-2007, 07:09 PM	#12
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	The Imus media circus, combined with this tragedy have sent us in a scarey direction, in my opinion. I just wonder what, exactly, people like jwhit want us to do about it. Do you want the government to step in and censor music and film? I'm not at all comfortable with that. If not that, then.... what?
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