Do you think Pre-season games fleeces fans?

Deberg_1990 · 08-20-2007, 11:50 AM

Peter King had some interesting things to say about preseason games in his MMQb today.

Discuss..

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...19/mmqb/3.html

1. I think the latest example of the idiocy of the preseason came Saturday night in St. Louis, when two of the three or four best backs in football, LaDainian Tomlinson and Steven Jackson, played a total of one play in the Rams' preseason game against San Diego. "He's definitely a guy I wouldn't put in in the preseason,'' Tomlinson said of Jackson.

What a boondoggle. Owners should be ashamed. The league should be ashamed. I'm not advocating Jackson and Tomlinson play -- not at all. Teams should do what they think is in their best interest to get ready for the season. Curtis Martin used to tell Herman Edwards he needed 20 or 25 summer carries to get ready for the real games, and that's what Edwards did with the Jets each August. Tomlinson obviously needs none, and the Rams think Jackson needs very few. Fine. But don't fleece the fans.

2. I think most fans have no idea what a rip-off this is, in this sense: Players get paid expense money, about $800 a week, during the preseason. But no salaries. So the average owner gets to fill his stadium, make maybe $1 million per meaningless game and not pay the players his fans came to see. (And stand on the sidelines, in the case of Tomlinson.)

One more thing: the Rams fans that came to see the game the other night paid up to $100 per seat for general admission in the stadium and up to $275 for club seats. The Cardinals fans down the street paid $24 for a field-box seat in spring training to see the World Series champions -- and, in all likelihood, Albert Pujols bat two or three times more than Steven Jackson touched the ball. The same Cardinals fans pay $85 for a field-box seat during the season.

3. I think if owners were fair, they'd do the Wal-Mart thing -- roll back the prices. That will happen about the same time I play tight end for the Raiders.

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2007, 11:53 AM

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that players get paid $800 a week during preseason. WTF do they need that for?

**Dartgod** · 08-20-2007, 11:54 AM

Absolutely. Paying full price for a glorified "practice" chaps my ass every season. Either sell them at a discounted price or give the season ticket holders the choice to opt out of preseason games.

**luv** · 08-20-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that players get paid $800 a week during preseason. WTF do they need that for?

Their transportation and rooms are taken care of. The only other thing would be food and entertainment. That's some pretty expensive food.

ChiefsCountry · 08-20-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that players get paid $800 a week during preseason. WTF do they need that for?

BC not all the guys will be on the 53 man roster.

Deberg_1990 · 08-20-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that players get paid $800 a week during preseason. WTF do they need that for?

Well obviously its pretty silly for the superstars to get this. But im sure it helps out the "Pre-season fodder" guys who are going to get cut anyways.

But of course the owners cant discriminate. You pay one guy, you have to pay them all.

DJJasonp · 08-20-2007, 11:59 AM

Although this makes total and complete sense....

But since it came from a complete tool (King), I'm going to pretend this never happened.

**Nzoner** · 08-20-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Their transportation and rooms are taken care of. The only other thing would be food and entertainment. That's some pretty expensive food.

I recall reading an article last week where one of the teams were upset because the hotel they were in didn't offer filet migion and they demanded it be brought in or something another.

Wile_E_Coyote · 08-20-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that players get paid $800 a week during preseason. WTF do they need that for?

The pre-season Passion Parties are most likely duds. The players are too damn tired to think of anythink more than a blow job

**luv** · 08-20-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Well obviously its pretty silly for the superstars to get this. But im sure it helps out the "Pre-season fodder" guys who are going to get cut anyways.

But of course the owners cant discriminate. You pay one guy, you have to pay them all.

Everyone doesn't deserve money for expenses?

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

The pre-season Passion Parties are most likely duds. The players are too damn tired to think of anythink more than a blow job

Eddie Kennison just wants to talk dirty to his wife.

Pushead2 · 08-20-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

I recall reading an article last week where one of the teams were upset because the hotel they were in didn't offer filet migion and they demanded it be brought in or something another.

What tools.

**gblowfish** · 08-20-2007, 12:06 PM

I've sold my pre-season tix the last four years to my pal Mr. Doggity. He takes his kids, and since they're right behind the Chiefs bench, they get to see the players up close, uh, except for Priest Holmes.

I have a really hard time paying $100 a pop to watch practice.

pikesome · 08-20-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Everyone doesn't deserve money for expenses?

TG isn't needing that $800 like Michael Allen does is what he's saying. It's chump change for TG, I bet he'd pay $800 to stay home if no one would bitch.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-20-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

I recall reading an article last week where one of the teams were upset because the hotel they were in didn't offer filet migion and they demanded it be brought in or something another.

That would be the Steelers.

There is actually a lengthy document that was leaked by a hotel to The Smoking Gun listing all the demands that the Steelers have for road game hotels.

08-20-2007, 11:50 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3724454	Do you think Pre-season games fleeces fans? Peter King had some interesting things to say about preseason games in his MMQb today. Discuss.. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...19/mmqb/3.html 1. I think the latest example of the idiocy of the preseason came Saturday night in St. Louis, when two of the three or four best backs in football, LaDainian Tomlinson and Steven Jackson, played a total of one play in the Rams' preseason game against San Diego. "He's definitely a guy I wouldn't put in in the preseason,'' Tomlinson said of Jackson. What a boondoggle. Owners should be ashamed. The league should be ashamed. I'm not advocating Jackson and Tomlinson play -- not at all. Teams should do what they think is in their best interest to get ready for the season. Curtis Martin used to tell Herman Edwards he needed 20 or 25 summer carries to get ready for the real games, and that's what Edwards did with the Jets each August. Tomlinson obviously needs none, and the Rams think Jackson needs very few. Fine. But don't fleece the fans. 2. I think most fans have no idea what a rip-off this is, in this sense: Players get paid expense money, about $800 a week, during the preseason. But no salaries. So the average owner gets to fill his stadium, make maybe $1 million per meaningless game and not pay the players his fans came to see. (And stand on the sidelines, in the case of Tomlinson.) One more thing: the Rams fans that came to see the game the other night paid up to $100 per seat for general admission in the stadium and up to $275 for club seats. The Cardinals fans down the street paid $24 for a field-box seat in spring training to see the World Series champions -- and, in all likelihood, Albert Pujols bat two or three times more than Steven Jackson touched the ball. The same Cardinals fans pay $85 for a field-box seat during the season. 3. I think if owners were fair, they'd do the Wal-Mart thing -- roll back the prices. That will happen about the same time I play tight end for the Raiders.
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08-20-2007, 11:53 AM	#2
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08-20-2007, 11:54 AM	#3
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7130000	Absolutely. Paying full price for a glorified "practice" chaps my ass every season. Either sell them at a discounted price or give the season ticket holders the choice to opt out of preseason games. __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $1695200	Although this makes total and complete sense.... But since it came from a complete tool (King), I'm going to pretend this never happened. __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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08-20-2007, 12:06 PM	#13
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17606178 VARSITY	I've sold my pre-season tix the last four years to my pal Mr. Doggity. He takes his kids, and since they're right behind the Chiefs bench, they get to see the players up close, uh, except for Priest Holmes. I have a really hard time paying $100 a pop to watch practice.
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