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Old 08-30-2007, 08:09 AM  
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I dont envy that guy one bit. What a thankless job....

Gardner looked like he was gonna put a cap in his A$$.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:12 AM   #2
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:15 AM   #3
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Business is business. It seemed that Gardner's reason for the ax was due to stubborness more than anything. At least that is the way I took Ray's explanation.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:19 AM   #4
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Hard job for sure, at least he's trying to be considerate and let them know what to work on, you can't ask for more than that.

The coaches were saying Rod was slacked most of the offseason, not really trying until lately, like he knew he's time was becoming limited. I'm sure he was butting heads too, the way he grabbed Bowe when Bowe was talking to a coach, something rubbed me wrong about that interaction too.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:20 AM   #5
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:23 AM   #6
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Hard job for sure, at least he's trying to be considerate and let them know what to work on, you can't ask for more than that.

The coaches were saying Rod was slacked most of the offseason, not really trying until lately, like he knew he's time was becoming limited. I'm sure he was butting heads too, the way he grabbed Bowe when Bowe was talking to a coach, something rubbed me wrong about that interaction too.
Yea, its too bad because you can tell he has the raw physical looks and talent to be a good reciever. He just lacks the mental aspect of the game.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:32 AM   #7
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Yea, its too bad because you can tell he has the raw physical looks and talent to be a good reciever. He just lacks the mental aspect of the game.


I thought the same thing. Too bad for him. Hope he gets his head on straight for the next camp he goes to.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #8
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Gardner was all about the attitude from what they showed. What was kind of the proof in the pudding was when Ray asked him, if we keep 5 WR and we want you back, would you be willing? Gardner was almost offended by it.

I think that was Ray making his point about why he was being cut and I dont think that Gardner picked up on that.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:53 AM   #9
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Who was the guy that was 27 years old that told Farmer he was going to stop chasing the dream?

Just curious.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:54 AM   #10
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Who was the guy that was 27 years old that told Farmer he was going to stop chasing the dream?

Just curious.
Pinkard, I think.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:55 AM   #11
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It's a shame, I heard he had a good camp.

I knew he was fodder when we picked him up, though.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:59 AM   #12
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Gardner was all about the attitude from what they showed. What was kind of the proof in the pudding was when Ray asked him, if we keep 5 WR and we want you back, would you be willing? Gardner was almost offended by it.

I think that was Ray making his point about why he was being cut and I dont think that Gardner picked up on that.
Gardner is probably wondering how the hell they kept stone hands Parker over him in the first place. No wonder he had a bad attitude.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:03 AM   #13
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Ex-MLB player Richie Hebner once told me, when he was a minor league manager, that the one thing he tells his players is: The worst thing you can do in this game is get a reputation. It will follow you everywhere.

I assume that applies to all pro sports.

I was thinking that last night when Gardner was cut, when before that Herm was in the meeting saying, basically, Yeah, he's been a model citizen in camp, but there are some guys you worry about that once they've made a team, they feel secure and revert to old habits.

Herm just didn't trust Gardner, based on his past behavior.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:21 AM   #14
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Ex-MLB player Richie Hebner once told me, when he was a minor league manager, that the one thing he tells his players is: The worst thing you can do in this game is get a reputation. It will follow you everywhere.

I assume that applies to all pro sports.

I was thinking that last night when Gardner was cut, when before that Herm was in the meeting saying, basically, Yeah, he's been a model citizen in camp, but there are some guys you worry about that once they've made a team, they feel secure and revert to old habits.

Herm just didn't trust Gardner, based on his past behavior.

Agreed. Farmer even told him straight up hes rubs people the wrong way for whatever reason.

Still, its hard to fathom keeping a guy like Sammie over Gardner (whos had a 1000 yard season)

There is alot we dont see though so who knows??
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:24 AM   #15
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