Mike Anderson vs. the road

HonestChieffan · 01-24-2008, 09:05 AM

How long will MU put up with Anderson?

Bootlegged · 01-24-2008, 09:08 AM

Stupid hire to begin with..

bobbything · 01-24-2008, 09:14 AM

If he doesn't start beating KU every once in a while, they won't put up with him for long.

Demonpenz · 01-24-2008, 09:49 AM

they are brutal. I would give him 2 more years to show progress. They can't shoot, can't play D without fouling, take dumb shots. Once he has "
his guys in there" they better preform

Sure-Oz · 01-24-2008, 09:53 AM

He kind've needs talent, he has the guys playing hard...unfortunatly the other team has shot a ton of FT's the last 2 games.

Eleazar · 01-24-2008, 09:54 AM

You can't build a doghouse without any nails

duncan_idaho · 01-24-2008, 10:12 AM

Probably more time than Illinois will put up with Bruce Weber's inability to get any talent - 'his guys' or otherwise - into his program.

Anderson is handcuffed so far by the guys he can put out there. Frustrating, but you have to give the guy a chance to build a little bit, and bring in something other than a talented but undisciplined, last-minute JUCO PG (Hannah) his nephew (Carroll) and late, class filler guys (Tiller and Butterfield).

Safford looks like he's going to be a good player, even if he is a bit of a late bloomer.

His first REAL recruiting class brings a speedy, pass-first point guard (Migel Paul), a rebounder/shot blocker at center (Steve Moore), a couple of scoring wings (Marcus Denmon and Kim English) and a couple of versatile, athletic forwards (Lawrence Bowers and Keith Ramsay). Moore and Bowers aren't finished products offensively, but they should be able to contribute defensively and on the glass quickly.

If that class is showing the same type of play in two years that this season's team is, then I'll be worried...

hawkchief · 01-24-2008, 10:19 AM

One thing working in his favor - Anderson will look like a genius next year compared to Frank "the stare" Martin at KSU after Beasley and Walker finish their 4 month sentence in Manhattan. Talk about the bottom falling out. Frank will be fully exposed as the fraud he is and Anderson won't look all that bad.

Eleazar · 01-24-2008, 10:22 AM

One thing that really jumped out at me against KU was that if we're going to play this kind of game, we need guys who can shoot. Really shoot. We just don't have them right now. With the turmoil our program was in, nobody like that was going to come play here.

I think they've played some games where they've looked pretty good this year. Not that they are a good team, but that they did a good job of working hard and doing fundamental things right and I thought Anderson was doing the best he could.

HonestChieffan · 01-24-2008, 10:24 AM

I agree that Illinois will be looking to replace Weber pretty soon if he cant get his act going. But I cant see Mizzou letting this go on too long either. You can only blame Snyder for so long.

duncan_idaho · 01-24-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

I agree that Illinois will be looking to replace Weber pretty soon if he cant get his act going. But I cant see Mizzou letting this go on too long either. You can only blame Snyder for so long.

You're right in that Snyder can only take the blame for so long. But the 08 class was the first time Anderson had spots open and more than a few months to recruit players.

The 06 class (Butterfield, Tiller, Hannah) was thrown together last minute.

The 07 class (Safford, transfer Zaire Taylor), Anderson started recruiting the summer before the senior year for those players. Tough to get in on guys that late.

The 08 class is all his. It will be his make-or-break class.

ROYC75 · 01-24-2008, 11:16 AM

MU needs to give Anderson some time, he is getting good play from what he has to play with.

kepp · 01-24-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

MU needs to give Anderson some time, he is getting good play from what he has to play with.

I agree. He came in with little talent in place and declining recruiting power. It would be foolish to expect an immediate turnaround.

bobbything · 01-24-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

One thing working in his favor - Anderson will look like a genius next year compared to Frank "the stare" Martin at KSU after Beasley and Walker finish their 4 month sentence in Manhattan. Talk about the bottom falling out. Frank will be fully exposed as the fraud he is and Anderson won't look all that bad.

This is true. But, this happens both ways with many coaches. Bruce Weber is a perfect example. He won with Self's recruits. Now, it's becoming painfully obvious that he can't (a) recruit, (b) coach, or (c) all of the above. Talent, in the end, is the trump card.

As a KU fan, I hate to admit this, but I like Mike Anderson. He's a likable guy. And he was (moderately) successful in the CUSA with marginal talent. However, I really think his style of play is harder to run nowadays because players have evolved into better all-around athletes since Arkansas won a NC.

I'm not suggesting he can't do it, I just think it's going to be very difficult.

**gblowfish** · 01-24-2008, 11:46 AM

When he starts boffing Paige Laurie....he's toast.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1700308	Probably more time than Illinois will put up with Bruce Weber's inability to get any talent - 'his guys' or otherwise - into his program. Anderson is handcuffed so far by the guys he can put out there. Frustrating, but you have to give the guy a chance to build a little bit, and bring in something other than a talented but undisciplined, last-minute JUCO PG (Hannah) his nephew (Carroll) and late, class filler guys (Tiller and Butterfield). Safford looks like he's going to be a good player, even if he is a bit of a late bloomer. His first REAL recruiting class brings a speedy, pass-first point guard (Migel Paul), a rebounder/shot blocker at center (Steve Moore), a couple of scoring wings (Marcus Denmon and Kim English) and a couple of versatile, athletic forwards (Lawrence Bowers and Keith Ramsay). Moore and Bowers aren't finished products offensively, but they should be able to contribute defensively and on the glass quickly. If that class is showing the same type of play in two years that this season's team is, then I'll be worried... __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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01-24-2008, 10:19 AM	#8
hawkchief Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $2908600	One thing working in his favor - Anderson will look like a genius next year compared to Frank "the stare" Martin at KSU after Beasley and Walker finish their 4 month sentence in Manhattan. Talk about the bottom falling out. Frank will be fully exposed as the fraud he is and Anderson won't look all that bad.
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01-24-2008, 10:22 AM	#9
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	One thing that really jumped out at me against KU was that if we're going to play this kind of game, we need guys who can shoot. Really shoot. We just don't have them right now. With the turmoil our program was in, nobody like that was going to come play here. I think they've played some games where they've looked pretty good this year. Not that they are a good team, but that they did a good job of working hard and doing fundamental things right and I thought Anderson was doing the best he could.
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01-24-2008, 10:24 AM	#10
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