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Old 02-08-2008, 05:39 PM  
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I have this kid in my one of my classes...

... who simply does not care. He is in 5th grade and has simply given up.

How do you motivate a 5th grader who thinks he has achieved academically all he is going to achieve?

He thinks his skills on the basketball court (he really is pretty good actually) will carry him through life.

I have tried "fatherly" sit downs with the kid and explained to him that if he wants to play pro ball, he will need to go to college. But that no college will let him play if he can't make decent grades. He is a smart kid but he has to stop giving up so quickly and actually pay attention in class.

I have tried getting him interested in books and reading using things he likes. Animals and sports.

I have tried "tough love" and told him that if he keeps giving up on everything, that he would wind up working the midnight shift at walmart.

I have ignored him and told him to come back when he actually wants to pay attention and learn.

I have tried stepping him through the process (reducing fractions for example) step by step.... AND HE GETS IT. He just simply does not want to do it.

Dunno what to do for him anymore really. His parents are not involved and obviously don't push him to achieve. He thinks he is dumb, and he is not. But when he gets home, instead of doing his homework.... his parents let him plant himself in front of the TV.

*sigh*

Parents.... any suggestions on what else I can do to motivate this kid?
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:44 PM   #3
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Write a letter to his parents.

Good parenting is really the only way to correct this. I was like this once with an Algebra II class. I hated my teacher's guts. I blamed failing entirely on her. I thought I had it good when the semester was over and finally the stupid class was over. I would take Algebra II next year with a different teacher.

Nope. Went to summer school.

Fortunately I liked the teacher.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:44 PM   #4
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It will be hard for you to motivate him...it will really need to come from is parents. If your "preaching" one thing and they are preaching something else it will be tough. Good luck. If all else fails just buy him some bling.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:46 PM   #5
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There are 3 types of learners, visual, auditory and kinesthetic.

Find out HOW he learns. Does he do better with a hands-on activity vs listening to instruction? Find games, group activities that allow him to absorb some things, while he's learning. Give him tastes of success and challenge him.

If he's quitting because things are getting a little tough now, how does he expect to react when he meets his match in competative level? He'll have to work even harder than the other guy to beat him.

Keep beating the message in different ways until you find one that gets his attention. He might be absorbing a lot more of your message than you think.

Earn his trust, lead by example....Show him the way.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:49 PM   #6
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Parents.... any suggestions on what else I can do to motivate this kid?

You can only do your best to teach him...If you don't like teaching go into counseling. Isn't that what your trying to do anyway?
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:51 PM   #7
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:52 PM   #8
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:53 PM   #9
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:53 PM   #10
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You teach 5th grade?
No, I posted this for shits and grins. LOL

Really though, I am not a 5th grade teacher. My job at school is to work with kids one on one who are either trouble makers, or borderline special ed.

I basically give those kids the one on one attention they need to make it through the class and try to set an example for them to follow.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:54 PM   #11
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If you don't like teaching go into counseling. Isn't that what your trying to do anyway?

Erm... no.

I love teaching. I am looking at working in a private school next year as the computer lab teacher.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:54 PM   #12
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Earn his trust, lead by example....Show him the way.

Unfortunatly most teachers SUCK at this...And when some do they try to instill their own values in the child which don't exaclty agree with that childs family values and core beliefs.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:56 PM   #14
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Unfortunatly most teachers SUCK at this...And when some do they try to instill their own values in the child which don't exaclty agree with that childs family values and core beliefs.
And while I agree with you that many teachers SUCK, in general... not just in this one facet, I am not trying to instill anything more than a work ethic.

I doubt most parents would have a problem with that. At least I would hope not. lol
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Is that a no? Im just trying to confirm my theory that stereotypes exist because they are usually true. Seriously I dont know any white 5th graders that think they are good enough at B-Ball to depend on it as a career.
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