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Old 11-18-2008, 10:45 PM  
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Sony dropping a bomb on Xbox's Netflix service?
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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/18/nx...ddenly-gimped/

Our Netflix streaming queues just got considerably shorter on the eve of the NXE launch. Acting on a tip, we popped into our Netflix account and sure enough, our "Instant Queue" had a new "Notes" column with an oft-repeated, red (nobody likes red!) notice: "Not available on Xbox." Logging onto Xbox Live (with an NXE account) confirmed that these titles were no longer available for streaming on Xbox 360.

We've reached out to Microsoft for a full explanation -- so keep your fingers crossed that this is just a launch period mishap (like someone flipped the wrong switch ... or something). We're betting on licensing issues, though, which could further cripple the service. Currently, there's no way to tell if a title is excluded from Xbox streaming until it's added to the Queue (reminder: this can only be done from a separate computer). We're not much for statistics, but we can tell you that 13 of 110 items in our Instant Queue are now unavailable, all of which are feature films. The blackout seems to have hit a range of flicks, from: Superbad to Bad Boys; Drunken Master to the entire Karate Kid trilogy (that's right -- the entire trilogy! We don't count that Next Karate Kid noise). We'll update when we learn more.

Update: We've found a common thread! All of the affected titles from our Queue are distributed by Columbia Pictures. Columbia Pictures, of course, is owned by Sony Pictures Entertainment, a subsidiary of Microsoft rival Sony. Case closed?

Oddly enough, Sony Picture Entertainment movies (listed here) are still Xbox-enabled.

Update 2: It appears that the sudden yoinking of Columbia Pictures films from NXE Instant Queue access is a licensing issue with Sony after all. MTV Multiplayer pinged us with word that, on the rental service's official blog, Netflix corp. communications VP Steve Swasey writes:

"As watching instantly becomes a more prominent part of the Netflix service, our goal is to have all of our streaming content licensed for all of our partner devices. We're doing well in this area, but it will take some time before we fully achieve that goal. Today, titles regularly come in and out of license and there is a natural ebb and flow to what we have on license at any given point in time. In the case of Xbox 360, a few hundred titles are temporarily unavailable to be streamed via the Xbox game console. Those titles are still available to be watched on subscribers' computers and on TVs via other partner devices, and we hope they'll be licensed for Xbox 360 shortly."
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:06 AM   #2
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You know, there ARE thousands of movies and TV shows downloadable in SD and HD to your PS3 right now via the PlayStationNetwork.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:36 AM   #3
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You know, there ARE thousands of movies and TV shows downloadable in SD and HD to your PS3 right now via the PlayStationNetwork.
Yeah, but thats what Netflix is for. heh

Love the idea of downloadable content but until it is priced right, neither console is going to get very far with it. Oh, and changing up the DRM would help too.

Rentals need to be 1.99 with unlimited viewings for at least 2 days. I know it is a Studio limitation they are throwing on both consoles but it is still asinine. When it takes an hour or so to DL the movie, I would rather just hop in the car and go to Blockbuster. Viewing the movie in 10 minutes and I get all the extra features to boot.

I don't know about most here but if I buy a movie, I want the actual media and the right to view it whenever and on whatever device I choose.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:37 AM   #4
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:37 AM   #5
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You know, there ARE thousands of movies and TV shows downloadable in SD and HD to your PS3 right now via the PlayStationNetwork.
A smaller selection than the XBL marketplace, even if you ignore Netflix.
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PSN lets you watch the movie while downloading. For rentals, you have it for 24 hours. I've found the price of the "buy it" content to be very reasonable.
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Yeah, but thats what Netflix is for. heh

Love the idea of downloadable content but until it is priced right, neither console is going to get very far with it. Oh, and changing up the DRM would help too.

Rentals need to be 1.99 with unlimited viewings for at least 2 days. I know it is a Studio limitation they are throwing on both consoles but it is still asinine. When it takes an hour or so to DL the movie, I would rather just hop in the car and go to Blockbuster. Viewing the movie in 10 minutes and I get all the extra features to boot.

I don't know about most here but if I buy a movie, I want the actual media and the right to view it whenever and on whatever device I choose.
Yep. And if not... people will just torrent it.
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A smaller selection than the XBL marketplace, even if you ignore Netflix.
We're just getting started. And unless there's some specific random flick you want to see, there's always something good to watch. I open that thing every Friday night and have yet to be disappointed.
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Streaming is faster then downloading. If you have the speed to go along with it.

I love the PS3's streaming capabilities. Picture on my tv looks really nice. Its not 1080 or anything, but still pretty darn nice.
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Streaming is faster then downloading. If you have the speed to go along with it.

I love the PS3's streaming capabilities. Picture on my tv looks really nice. Its not 1080 or anything, but still pretty darn nice.
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PSN lets you watch the movie while downloading. For rentals, you have it for 24 hours. I've found the price of the "buy it" content to be very reasonable.
Yeah, but if I like a movie enough, I will watch it more than once. Also, what if my wife can't sit down to watch it at the same time as me? We have to rent it a second time for 24 hours as they don't allow you to view it more than once during that 24 hour period. REally doesn't take family scheduling into account at all in its current format.

The "buy it" content is overpriced really when you consider the fact that it costs the same amount as a standard DVD and you don't get any of the bonus content. Now if they would actually sell the HD content at that price they might have something. Right now, from what I have seen anyway, you can only rent HD content.

Either way, I don't want the content tied to my PS3. I want to be able to move it to my computer or back it up on my DVD so I can view it that way as well.

Thats another thing. Why does Sony not allow you to redownload video content nor do they allow you to backup the video content on another device?

Damn, I am hammering right now.
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Yeah, but if I like a movie enough, I will watch it more than once. Also, what if my wife can't sit down to watch it at the same time as me? We have to rent it a second time for 24 hours as they don't allow you to view it more than once during that 24 hour period. REally doesn't take family scheduling into account at all in its current format.

The "buy it" content is overpriced really when you consider the fact that it costs the same amount as a standard DVD and you don't get any of the bonus content. Now if they would actually sell the HD content at that price they might have something. Right now, from what I have seen anyway, you can only rent HD content.

Either way, I don't want the content tied to my PS3. I want to be able to move it to my computer or back it up on my DVD so I can view it that way as well.

Thats another thing. Why does Sony not allow you to redownload video content nor do they allow you to backup the video content on another device?

Damn, I am hammering right now.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:48 AM   #15
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I dont even stream anything on my 360. Its all PS3. Its awesome. Also, if i want to watch something i downloaded on my 65inch in the living room. Wireless connection owns for that.
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