Royals Report:Royals trade Ramon Ramirez for Cocoa Crisp

Sure-Oz · 02:37 PM

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Official!

KC lands Crisp in exchange for Ramirez
Royals acquire center fielder from Boston, deal rising reliever

By Dick Kaegel / MLB.com
KANSAS CITY -- The Royals' quest for a productive outfielder led to the acquisition of Coco Crisp from the Boston Red Sox on Wednesday.

The Royals obtained the fleet Crisp in a trade that sent setup reliever Ramon Ramirez to the Red Sox. A center fielder, Crisp could figure as the Royals' leadoff batter.

"He's somebody with a lot of experience, been a part of championship teams, has the ability to play center field and has had success at the top of the lineup. That was very appealing for us," Royals general manager Dayton Moore said.

The deal creates something of a crowd in the outfield if David DeJesus moves from center to left, where Mark Teahen was often stationed last year. Jose Guillen is the right fielder.

The acquisition of Crisp could trigger more deals. On Tuesday, Teahen was linked with the Chicago Cubs, although sources with that club have since downplayed that interest.

"I'm not going to be committal to where guys are going to play and where guys are going to hit. I like the options it gives us because of Coco's speed and what it does for our lineup," manager Trey Hillman said.

Last season for Boston, Crisp batted .283 in 118 games with seven home runs, 41 RBIs and 20 stolen bases. Although he lost playing time to Jacoby Ellsbury, Crisp returned to regular duty in the postseason and played well, going 10-for-24 in the playoffs.

This is the Royals' second deal for an everyday player. Earlier, they obtained slugging first baseman Mike Jacobs from the Florida Marlins for another right-handed reliever, Leo Nunez.

"I think it gives us more weapons, no doubt about it," Hillman said. "I hate to lose Noonie and I hate to lose Ramy, but it gives us an opportunity to do some things offensively, and we'll see how we can fill in the holes those two guys vacate."

Although Crisp's speed opens the possibility for more steals, both Hillman and Moore seemed equally impressed by Crisp's ability to cover center field.

Hot Stove

"Center field is a very important position, especially in our ballpark," Moore said. "It's a huge ballpark, and there are not a lot of home runs hit here. So we felt it was obviously very, very important for us. ... We felt that Coco Crisp was the best available player for us in center field."

DeJesus, though not a burner, covered center well, although left field was seen as a better fit for him.

Ramirez, obtained last spring from Colorado in a deal that eventually sent starter Jorge De La Rosa to the Rockies, developed into a dependable right-handed setup man for the Royals. In 71 games, he was 3-2 with a 2.64 ERA.

Ramirez, 27, blossomed last season after surviving a rough May. He held opponents to a .222 average, and right-handed batters hit just .153 against him. He had a good strikeout-to-walk ratio, 70-to-31 in 71 games.

"His numbers are good. He really made himself into a premier setup man," said Ramirez's agent, Paul Kinzer. "This is his opportunity to shine. He'll be in the spotlight now -- setting up for [Jonathan] Papelbon."

The trade sends Ramirez to a Red Sox team that won the World Series in 2004 and 2007 and came within a game of returning this year.

"I feel fine about it because I realize baseball is a business and every team tries to do the best for their organization," Ramirez said through a translator. "If I'm going to Boston, I'm going happily, and I will work as hard as I worked for Kansas City."

Crisp, 29, was with the Cleveland Indians from 2002 to 2005 and then was traded to the Red Sox in a six-player swap prior to the 2006 season. In seven seasons, the switch-hitter has a .280 average with a .344 on-base percentage. In 2005, he hit .300 for the Indians.

In center field, Crisp shows speed and covers a lot of ground and has an average arm.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-19-2008, 08:59 AM

That doesn't sound like a good deal. I like Ram Ram.

BigChiefFan · 11-19-2008, 09:00 AM

Nice move. Crisp isn't great with his at-bats, but his defense is stellar.

Sure-Oz · 11-19-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

That doesn't sound like a good deal. I like Ram Ram.

I think we are looking at this from a homeristic point of view, kind've....

RAM RAM was pretty damn good for us but we do have a starting CF'er with some pop and a decent OBP. and can steal. Also plays excellent defense, probably his biggest strength. I think this may be a good trade in the end. We know Dayton has a good history of recovering his pen with scrubs or trades and making it pretty solid so far. Let's hope he has a decent replacement for Ram Ram. I liked Ram Ram though but i'll get over it....

StcChief · 11-19-2008, 09:03 AM

let's bet CoCo is pissed....

Goapics1 · 11-19-2008, 09:04 AM

Welcome to Hell Coco!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Sure-Oz · 11-19-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

let's bet CoCo is pissed....

Maybe, but he'll get to start now, i believe he was backing up/splitting with jacoby ellsbury

BigChiefFan · 11-19-2008, 09:09 AM

Snap, crackle, pop.

Sure-Oz · 11-19-2008, 09:14 AM

I'd also say this trade could setup Teahen or Dejesus departing as well

Fish · 11-19-2008, 09:18 AM

Bye Teahen....

Sam Hall · 11-19-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Bye Teahen....

They should trade him to the Cubs for Mike Fontenot.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-19-2008, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

They should trade him to the Cubs for Mike Fontenot.

This.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-19-2008, 09:33 AM

I thought this was a nick name or a joke until I heard the morning crew at 810 use the name "Cocoa Crisp".

That poor, poor bastard.

And I thought Flowers had it rough...

**RockChalk** · 11-19-2008, 09:36 AM

I like the trade.

Ram Ram was good for us, but he has one season of proven big league ability. Crisp has been pretty good the past few seasons and will be a much needed upgrade at centerfield. I think it also seals Teabag's fate, so I'm all for it.

Sure-Oz · 11-19-2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I thought this was a nick name or a joke until I heard the morning crew at 810 use the name "Cocoa Crisp".

That poor, poor bastard.

And I thought Flowers had it rough...

Cocoa's real name is Covelli Crisp, it is a nickname

11-19-2008, 08:58 AM
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $3359383	Report:Royals trade Ramon Ramirez for Cocoa Crisp http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...t=.jsp&c_id=kc Official! KC lands Crisp in exchange for Ramirez Royals acquire center fielder from Boston, deal rising reliever By Dick Kaegel / MLB.com KANSAS CITY -- The Royals' quest for a productive outfielder led to the acquisition of Coco Crisp from the Boston Red Sox on Wednesday. The Royals obtained the fleet Crisp in a trade that sent setup reliever Ramon Ramirez to the Red Sox. A center fielder, Crisp could figure as the Royals' leadoff batter. "He's somebody with a lot of experience, been a part of championship teams, has the ability to play center field and has had success at the top of the lineup. That was very appealing for us," Royals general manager Dayton Moore said. The deal creates something of a crowd in the outfield if David DeJesus moves from center to left, where Mark Teahen was often stationed last year. Jose Guillen is the right fielder. The acquisition of Crisp could trigger more deals. On Tuesday, Teahen was linked with the Chicago Cubs, although sources with that club have since downplayed that interest. "I'm not going to be committal to where guys are going to play and where guys are going to hit. I like the options it gives us because of Coco's speed and what it does for our lineup," manager Trey Hillman said. Last season for Boston, Crisp batted .283 in 118 games with seven home runs, 41 RBIs and 20 stolen bases. Although he lost playing time to Jacoby Ellsbury, Crisp returned to regular duty in the postseason and played well, going 10-for-24 in the playoffs. This is the Royals' second deal for an everyday player. Earlier, they obtained slugging first baseman Mike Jacobs from the Florida Marlins for another right-handed reliever, Leo Nunez. "I think it gives us more weapons, no doubt about it," Hillman said. "I hate to lose Noonie and I hate to lose Ramy, but it gives us an opportunity to do some things offensively, and we'll see how we can fill in the holes those two guys vacate." Although Crisp's speed opens the possibility for more steals, both Hillman and Moore seemed equally impressed by Crisp's ability to cover center field. Hot Stove "Center field is a very important position, especially in our ballpark," Moore said. "It's a huge ballpark, and there are not a lot of home runs hit here. So we felt it was obviously very, very important for us. ... We felt that Coco Crisp was the best available player for us in center field." DeJesus, though not a burner, covered center well, although left field was seen as a better fit for him. Ramirez, obtained last spring from Colorado in a deal that eventually sent starter Jorge De La Rosa to the Rockies, developed into a dependable right-handed setup man for the Royals. In 71 games, he was 3-2 with a 2.64 ERA. Ramirez, 27, blossomed last season after surviving a rough May. He held opponents to a .222 average, and right-handed batters hit just .153 against him. He had a good strikeout-to-walk ratio, 70-to-31 in 71 games. "His numbers are good. He really made himself into a premier setup man," said Ramirez's agent, Paul Kinzer. "This is his opportunity to shine. He'll be in the spotlight now -- setting up for [Jonathan] Papelbon." The trade sends Ramirez to a Red Sox team that won the World Series in 2004 and 2007 and came within a game of returning this year. "I feel fine about it because I realize baseball is a business and every team tries to do the best for their organization," Ramirez said through a translator. "If I'm going to Boston, I'm going happily, and I will work as hard as I worked for Kansas City." Crisp, 29, was with the Cleveland Indians from 2002 to 2005 and then was traded to the Red Sox in a six-player swap prior to the 2006 season. In seven seasons, the switch-hitter has a .280 average with a .344 on-base percentage. In 2005, he hit .300 for the Indians. In center field, Crisp shows speed and covers a lot of ground and has an average arm. Last edited by Sure-Oz; 11-19-2008 at 02:37 PM..
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