Chiefs Cowher or Tomlin?

Ralphy Boy · 02-02-2009, 07:08 AM

Okay, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that his legacy got a little tarnished last night by Tomlin accomplishing in his 2nd season what Cowher took 14 years to do, but it might have taken away a little bit of the shine. Granted you could say that Tomlin was the Gruden-like benefactor of Cowhers work, but who really knows at this point. I do wonder if last nights game got any of his competitive juices to start flowing enough to want to take the KC job. If Haley's going to be in Hawaii this week anyway, they might as well call and see if he'd be interested in talking.

Reerun_KC · 02-02-2009, 07:32 AM

Tomlin without Question....

**MahiMike** · 02-02-2009, 07:35 AM

Give Herm that talent and even he could coach 'em up.

Tomlin = Barry Switzer

Mecca · 02-02-2009, 07:38 AM

I think Tomlin is more adaptable he managed to win this year without having a very good running game.

Fritz88 · 02-02-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Tomlin without Question....

Tomlin is good but we need to note that he inherited a talented and a
disciplined team.

keg in kc · 02-02-2009, 07:44 AM

The steelers were good for a long time under Cowher, I don't think anything's going to tarnish that. Sure he was kind of like marty, except that he actually could and did win meaningful games. Yesterday's game doesn't change that fact retroactively.

If anything, people will probably read it the other way around, that it's Cowher's team and Tomlin just rode the wave. (I don't agree...)

Red Dawg · 02-02-2009, 08:11 AM

Tomlin has the more experienced Ben than Cowher did.

el borracho · 02-02-2009, 08:23 AM

Obviously, Monty Beisel is better than DJ because he has been to a SuperBowl.

Garcia Bronco · 02-02-2009, 09:22 AM

Dick Lebeau. Tomlin doesn't win and Cowher sure as hell doesn't win without Dick Lebeau.

PastorMikH · 02-02-2009, 09:26 AM

I'd liked to have seen how both of their Superbowl winning teams would have faired without the questionable calls by the refs.

Seriously, I like the Steelers and pull for them unless they are playing the Chiefs ('cept last night I was pulling for Warner). But the way the calls went in both SBs has me wondering if they could have won them without the calls going their way.

philfree · 02-02-2009, 09:29 AM

I don't think it's as much the coaches as it is the Steelers Franchise as a whole. All of their coaches win Super Bowls.

PhilFree

**Manila-Chief** · 02-02-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The steelers were good for a long time under Cowher, I don't think anything's going to tarnish that. Sure he was kind of like marty, except that he actually could and did win meaningful games. Yesterday's game doesn't change that fact retroactively.

If anything, people will probably read it the other way around, that it's Cowher's team and Tomlin just rode the wave. (I don't agree...)

Well, from all I've read about how the Steelers constantly retool, I'd say that it is more "The Steelers Team" that both Cowher and Tomlin managed. Yes, both are good coaches but without talent, culture, etc. neither would have won.

Just watching both, I'd choose Tomlim because I think he is more in touch with today's NFL.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think Tomlin is more adaptable he managed to win this year without having a very good OFFENSIVE LINE.

FYP.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Well, from all I've read about how the Steelers constantly retool, I'd say that it is more "The Steelers Team" that both Cowher and Tomlin managed. Yes, both are good coaches but without talent, culture, etc. neither would have won.

Just watching both, I'd choose Tomlim because I think he is more in touch with today's NFL.

I think he's arrogant though. And he shouldn't have been before this game. Now he has the right to have a chip on his shoulder though.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I'd liked to have seen how both of their Superbowl winning teams would have faired without the questionable calls by the refs.

Seriously, I like the Steelers and pull for them unless they are playing the Chiefs ('cept last night I was pulling for Warner). But the way the calls went in both SBs has me wondering if they could have won them without the calls going their way.

Steelers are an all-american team. The Cardinals are not that at all. Refs will give the benefit of the doubt to the veteran, well-known team most of the time.

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