Chiefs It's about value.

Dark Horse · 03-20-2009, 09:42 AM

Pioli doesn't seem like the type to just go along with the masses when it comes to the draft. Aaron Currey is the favorite in most mock drafts but is his value worth the investment? Looking at the franchise numbers for all positions says a lot about which positions are valued the most.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true this is a list of the franchise numbers for all positions, With QB being highest at 14.65, CB 9.96, WR 9.88, DE 8.99, OL 8.45, LB 8.3, RB 6.62, S 6.34, DT 6.06, TE 4.46, K/P 2.48.

I have no idea who we will take but aside from QB there is not much drop off between positions in the next 5.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 03-20-2009, 09:45 AM

So your saying Matthew Stafford is the pick! I LIKE IT!

Dark Horse · 03-20-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

So your saying Matthew Stafford is the pick! I LIKE IT!

only if the crazy three way trade stories are true

talastan · 03-20-2009, 09:51 AM

IMO Everette Brown is shooting up most boards so I could see him at #3. Great pass rusher, has size to work in 4-3 as DE, or 3-4 as OLB. Curry wouldn't be bad either if he has the same abilities, but his pass rush ability hasn't really been shown much at Wake Forest being the SAM backer.

Reerun_KC · 03-20-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Pioli doesn't seem like the type to just go along with the masses when it comes to the draft. Aaron Currey is the favorite in most mock drafts but is his value worth the investment? Looking at the franchise numbers for all positions says a lot about which positions are valued the most.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true this is a list of the franchise numbers for all positions, With QB being highest at 14.65, CB 9.96, WR 9.88, DE 8.99, OL 8.45, LB 8.3, RB 6.62, S 6.34, DT 6.06, TE 4.46, K/P 2.48.

I have no idea who we will take but aside from QB there is not much drop off between positions in the next 5.

There is a huge difference between NFL value and the value engrained to the fanbase on players for the Chiefs...

Lets take a look here.
NFL = QB 14.65
CP = QB -10.25*

NFL = CB 9.96
CP = CB 9.96*

NFL = WR 9.88
CP = WR 4.55*

NFL = DE 8.99
CP = DE 15.96*

NFL = OL 8.45
CP = 25.36* (Especially RG)

NFL = LB 8.3
CP = LB 26.35*

NFL = RB 6.62
CP = RB 10.65*

NFL = S 6.34
CP = S 7.20*

NFL = DT 6.06
CP = DT 14.27*

NFL = TE 4.46
CP = TE 4.46*

NFL = K/P 2.48
CP = K/P 2.48*

*These numbers are speculation and opinions, they do not reflex the opinions of the GM and HC of the Kansas City Chiefs. They are not fact based on speculation.

Dark Horse · 03-20-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

IMO Everette Brown is shooting up most boards so I could see him at #3. Great pass rusher, has size to work in 4-3 as DE, or 3-4 as OLB. Curry wouldn't be bad either if he has the same abilities, but his pass rush ability hasn't really been shown much at Wake Forest being the SAM backer.

Do you think we will use him as a 43 de or 34 lb?

Dark Horse · 03-20-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

There is a huge difference between NFL value and the value engrained to the fanbase on players for the Chiefs...

Lets take a look here.
NFL = QB 14.65
CP = QB -10.25*

NFL = CB 9.96
CP = CB 9.96*

NFL = WR 9.88
CP = WR 4.55*

NFL = DE 8.99
CP = DE 15.96*

NFL = OL 8.45
CP = 25.36* (Especially RG)

NFL = LB 8.3
CP = LB 26.35*

NFL = RB 6.62
CP = RB 10.65*

NFL = S 6.34
CP = S 7.20*

NFL = DT 6.06
CP = DT 14.27*

NFL = TE 4.46
CP = TE 4.46*

NFL = K/P 2.48
CP = K/P 2.48*

*These numbers are speculation and opinions, they do not reflex the opinions of the GM and HC of the Kansas City Chiefs. They are not fact based on speculation.

Everyone knows that speculation is way more fun than fact.

Reerun_KC · 03-20-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Everyone knows that speculation is way more fun than fact.

htismaqe · 03-20-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Do you think we will use him as a 43 de or 34 lb?

3-4 OLB.

RustShack · 03-20-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

3-4 OLB.

AND 4-3 DE, I doubt they would sit him on the bench when we are in the 4-3.

htismaqe · 03-20-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

AND 4-3 DE, I doubt they would sit him on the bench when we are in the 4-3.

Assuming we play 4-3, sure. Who knows what we're going to do at this point, but his natural position is probably 3-4 OLB.

RustShack · 03-20-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Assuming we play 4-3, sure. Who knows what we're going to do at this point, but his natural position is probably 3-4 OLB.

We aren't going to just completely switch to the 3-4 in a matter of months.

**MahiMike** · 03-20-2009, 11:02 AM

Pioli will trade down and get more picks. Probably get that 2nd rounder back as well.

htismaqe · 03-20-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

We aren't going to just completely switch to the 3-4 in a matter of months.

At this point, I wouldn't rule anything out.

Dark Horse · 03-20-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Pioli will trade down and get more picks. Probably get that 2nd rounder back as well.

Maybe but I doubt it. However the 2 players I think they have the best chance of taking play the positions we are loading up at for depth.

03-20-2009, 09:42 AM
Dark Horse Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $8465015	It's about value. Pioli doesn't seem like the type to just go along with the masses when it comes to the draft. Aaron Currey is the favorite in most mock drafts but is his value worth the investment? Looking at the franchise numbers for all positions says a lot about which positions are valued the most. http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true this is a list of the franchise numbers for all positions, With QB being highest at 14.65, CB 9.96, WR 9.88, DE 8.99, OL 8.45, LB 8.3, RB 6.62, S 6.34, DT 6.06, TE 4.46, K/P 2.48. I have no idea who we will take but aside from QB there is not much drop off between positions in the next 5.
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