Football Sparano's thoughts on Thigpen

NIUhuskies · 10-02-2009, 04:01 PM

didnt see this posted yet...sorry if i missed it

(On if he, Bill Parcells, and Jeff Ireland saw something they especially liked in QB Tyler Thigpen) - "Yes, I think all three of us did. In preparation for Kansas City last year, obviously you're doing your film work, but I watched a bunch of tape on him prior to that. I don't really know what Bill and Jeff watched one way or the other. But in that week - I know they spent a lot of time in the last couple days watching a lot of tape. From my end, it was more the preparation week getting ready to play Kansas City and see what he could do there, and then what he did during the course of that ballgame and so on. I think that you look at him, and when he got the opportunity, I believe Brodie Croyle went down, and he got the opportunity to play and started a little bit slow. But then all-of-a-sudden - I want to say it was against the Jets - [he] had a really good ballgame against the Jets. Had a high percentage of completions and then it just started to continue to get better and better."

(On Thigpen's mobility) - "I like his mobility, I like his arm strength, really smart kid. Tough kid, tough competitor, a lot along the lines of the three quarterbacks that we had. You could certainly say that about Chad Pennington, certainly could say that about Henne, and about Pat White. I think those are all qualities that they have."

(On how similar the Dolphins offense is to Kansas City's and how long it should take Thigpen to assimilate into the offense) - "I would say that this offense is about 65/70% similar. I would think formationally we're pretty similar, how we call our protections are pretty similar. Just that Todd [Haley] and I have been together, maybe when Todd went to Arizona and he was with Kenny [Whisenhunt], that was a little different, but Kenny fell from a similar tree there too and had some of that background with the Jets and some of those people. I think it's similar, not completely. So I would say it's going to help speed up the amount of time that it takes to prepare him."

(On where Thigpen is on the depth chart) - "He's third right now. I don't know where that will be when we get to game day, we'll see. And I wouldn't tell you [laughter]."

http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/mi...nscripts-93009

chiefs1111 · 10-02-2009, 04:14 PM

Tyler will be playing in the UFL or the In door football league soon enough

**jAZ** · 10-02-2009, 04:15 PM

Good luck to them both.

El Chapo · 10-02-2009, 04:17 PM

Thigpen = Tobin Rote II

T-post Tom · 10-02-2009, 04:45 PM

Phins - to the ship!

Halfcan · 10-02-2009, 04:47 PM

Miami's offense is similar??

You mean they run it up the middle nonstop and throw 2 yard passes when they need 17 yards??

yikes

Red Coater · 10-02-2009, 04:53 PM

he will be a star. just watch and see. why cause that would be our luck." Gannon"

LaChapelle · 10-02-2009, 04:54 PM

The Fins WRs will be hung out to dry. Oh wait they don't have any.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Tyler will be playing in the UFL or the In door football league soon enough

I'll never ever understand why so many Chiefs' fans hate Thigpen. It's the most head-scratching thing I've ever seen in my years as a fan.

Parcells isn't a genius. But he obviously thought Thigpen was good enough to justify trading for the guy. So much for the theory around this board that if the Chiefs cut him, nobody would ever want him.

The Chiefs made the right move in trading him, but it sucks for him that he was hated for no apparent reason at all.

TrickyNicky · 10-02-2009, 05:00 PM

Tyler Thigpen is like a white Quincy Carter without the drug problems. Except Quincy has actually played in a meaningful game.

kstater · 10-02-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'll never ever understand why so many Chiefs' fans hate Thigpen. It's the most head-scratching thing I've ever seen in my years as a fan.

Parcells isn't a genius. But he obviously thought Thigpen was good enough to justify trading for the guy. So much for the theory around this board that if the Chiefs cut him, nobody would ever want him.

The Chiefs made the right move in trading him, but it sucks for him that he was hated for no apparent reason at all.

Being an inaccurate one trick pony doesn't garner a lot of respect.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Being an inaccurate one trick pony doesn't garner a lot of respect.

Apparently it warranted enough respect in Jacksonville and Miami, probably more teams if he was actually cut. That's the point to be made. People continue to insist that no team would ever want him. And yet, Miami chose to trade draft picks for him instead of picking up other QBs like O'Connell or Andrew Walter who are still on the market.

He's not as good as some of the homers will have you believe. But it's amazing to me how many are so convinced that nobody in the NFL thinks he's of any value. They were obviously proven wrong this week.

Tiger's Fan · 10-02-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Apparently it warranted enough respect in Jacksonville and Miami, probably more teams if he was actually cut. That's the point to be made. People continue to insist that no team would ever want him. And yet, Miami chose to trade draft picks for him instead of picking up other QBs like O'Connell or Andrew Walter who are still on the market.

He's not as good as some of the homers will have you believe. But it's amazing to me how many are so convinced that nobody in the NFL thinks he's of any value. They were obviously proven wrong this week.

If Pennington is still upright, it's all a moot point, and Thigpen is still sitting at the end of the bench. He just changed benches is all. He'll stay there too if they ever ask him to throw the ball downfield.

You can't fix horrible accuracy, no matter how hard that lil engine tries to make it up THAT hill.

Brock · 10-02-2009, 05:38 PM

It wouldn't surprise me to see Miami use him on some of their gimmick stuff.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

If Pennington is still upright, it's all a moot point, and Thigpen is still sitting at the end of the bench. He just changed benches is all. He'll stay there too if they ever ask him to throw the ball downfield.

You can't fix horrible accuracy, no matter how hard that lil engine tries to make it up THAT hill.

You can fix accuracy if you dedicate yourself to relentlessly improving your mechanics. That's what Eli Manning did. And Thigpen has a lot of very fixable mechanical problems. He seems to short-arm the ball a bit and his footwork looks pretty sloppy. That's something you can teach with repetition.

In his defense, he's never had a real QBs coach to hammer that into his head. He had Dick Curl and then... crickets... nobody under Haley.

I have no idea if he'll ever fix those problems. My point has always been that we know he has the work ethic to try, and we know that with his speed he doesn't ever have to be Drew Brees accurate to have some success. As I've pointed out many times, the one thing he has that you absolutely cannot coach is the right attitude and I still contend that the majority of QBs who failed did so because they either didn't have the right work ethic, the right confidence/swagger, the right ability to brush off mistakes, or the ability to lead in a way that teammates respond to you. He's on Miami, so I wouldn't say that I'm rooting for him. But he seems like a good kid, so I do wish him success.

Besides, I'm not even arguing that he'll ever be a great quarterback. I'm arguing that there's a very good chance he improves that he's still in this league 5 years from now, whether as a marginal starter or a quality backup or even as a solid third stringer.

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NIUhuskies Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Casino cash: $8425050	Sparano's thoughts on Thigpen didnt see this posted yet...sorry if i missed it (On if he, Bill Parcells, and Jeff Ireland saw something they especially liked in QB Tyler Thigpen) - "Yes, I think all three of us did. In preparation for Kansas City last year, obviously you're doing your film work, but I watched a bunch of tape on him prior to that. I don't really know what Bill and Jeff watched one way or the other. But in that week - I know they spent a lot of time in the last couple days watching a lot of tape. From my end, it was more the preparation week getting ready to play Kansas City and see what he could do there, and then what he did during the course of that ballgame and so on. I think that you look at him, and when he got the opportunity, I believe Brodie Croyle went down, and he got the opportunity to play and started a little bit slow. But then all-of-a-sudden - I want to say it was against the Jets - [he] had a really good ballgame against the Jets. Had a high percentage of completions and then it just started to continue to get better and better." (On Thigpen's mobility) - "I like his mobility, I like his arm strength, really smart kid. Tough kid, tough competitor, a lot along the lines of the three quarterbacks that we had. You could certainly say that about Chad Pennington, certainly could say that about Henne, and about Pat White. I think those are all qualities that they have." (On how similar the Dolphins offense is to Kansas City's and how long it should take Thigpen to assimilate into the offense) - "I would say that this offense is about 65/70% similar. I would think formationally we're pretty similar, how we call our protections are pretty similar. Just that Todd [Haley] and I have been together, maybe when Todd went to Arizona and he was with Kenny [Whisenhunt], that was a little different, but Kenny fell from a similar tree there too and had some of that background with the Jets and some of those people. I think it's similar, not completely. So I would say it's going to help speed up the amount of time that it takes to prepare him." (On where Thigpen is on the depth chart) - "He's third right now. I don't know where that will be when we get to game day, we'll see. And I wouldn't tell you [laughter]." http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/mi...nscripts-93009
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