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Old 04-19-2010, 04:18 PM  
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Would you trade Dorsey if....?
Sorry, I hate playing the speculation game. But let me throw out a scenario.

Would you consider trading Dorsey if you felt that a 5-technique like Alualu or Carlos Dunlap with the second pick in the second round? And if so, what value would you insist upon?

I've always said Dorsey's value is in a 4-3 and he's overachieving right now in a 3-4. If you make the trade and you get one of these guys, you could end up with two very high second round picks. If, say for example, you made this trade to the Lions. And with Dorsey's value, who knows, maybe you also get a lower pick like a 5th as a cherry on top?
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:21 PM   #2
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Carlos Dunlap is not a 5 tech, so uh you should remove him right away.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:34 PM   #3
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If I'm trading Dorsey, I'm sure as hell not wasting another high pick on a goddamn 5-technique.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:50 PM   #4
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No. I wouldn't trade him. At all.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:01 PM   #5
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I'm not trading him if it's me. now, if ty-jack comes around and we can get a late first or, ****, a second rounder out of him? **** yes.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:03 PM   #6
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I'd trade Dorsey for next year's 3rd
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:25 PM   #7
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If I'm trading Dorsey, I'm sure as hell not wasting another high pick on a goddamn 5-technique.
In this scenario, if you get a Detroit or a St. Louis to throw their second round pick in the ring, then you're essentially trading up in the draft if you take a 5-technique with Atlanta's Gonzalez pick.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:29 PM   #8
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If Suh falls into our lap and no other deal looks good

draft Suh and then trade Dorsey to get a legit NT

Suh
cody
Jackson

might work ... it's still frustrating to be drafting a player to just replace dorsey though.

hopefully if Suh drops into our lap some team will trade the farm to move up and grab him.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:32 PM   #9
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In this scenario, if you get a Detroit or a St. Louis to throw their second round pick in the ring, then you're essentially trading up in the draft if you take a 5-technique with Atlanta's Gonzalez pick.
Or, I'm not wasting another high pick on a position that holds little value, and I'm using those high picks for skill players.

Why do people think it takes some special talent to be a ****ing 5-tech?
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:33 PM   #10
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If by some miracle Suh falls, we grab him and call Gunther to take Dorsey.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:35 PM   #11
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If by some miracle Suh falls, we grab him and call Gunther to take Dorsey.
dorsey for detroit's 2nd rounder straight up?
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:37 PM   #12
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dorsey for detroit's 2nd rounder straight up?
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Or, I'm not wasting another high pick on a position that holds little value, and I'm using those high picks for skill players.

Why do people think it takes some special talent to be a ****ing 5-tech?
Well, I think it's an overreaction to say that using a #50 on a 5-technique is reaching. 5-techniques still hold good value, but it's probably toward the later first early second if you have a really good one and middle of the first if you have an outstanding one. We saw in Cleveland what happens when you get below average play at that position.

And again, this is essentially a trade up. You lose Dorsey, replace him with a guy who might have better 5-technique potential, and in exchange you get a high second round pick. It's essentially like trading Dorsey in order to move up 15 or so spots up in the draft.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:57 PM   #14
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dorsey for detroit's 2nd rounder straight up?
JFC don't say that. I got call a ****ing reerun for suggesting this a couple of weeks ago. I'd try to get a low 1st from someone but I think there is 0% chance of that. I'd try to rape Detroit / Gunther for its 2nd or next years 1st. (that would be my favorite move).
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:03 PM   #15
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dorsey for detroit's 2nd rounder straight up?
Sure and throw in Flowers. CPers don't want to keep the good players.
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