Football Denver Releases 1st round Bust Jarvis Moss

vailpass · 11-17-2010, 03:16 PM

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels announced this
morning that the team has released former first-
round draft pick Jarvis Moss. The move comes as
Robert Ayers, also a first-round pick and outside
linebacker, is set to return from a foot injury that
has kept him out more than a month.

Moss' career in Denver was a disappointment,
with only 40 total tackles and 4.5 sacks in 33
games over 3 1/2 seasons. Moss, the team's
first-round pick in 2007 (17th overall) started
only one game in his Broncos career, that coming
in his rookie season. He moved from defensive
end to outside linebacker when McDaniels
arrived in 2009, part of the switch to a 3-4
scheme.

"He's been a great kid for us, done everything we
asked him to do. It just hasn't been a perfect fit,"
McDaniels said. "Hopefully he can find a place
that will be a better fit and suits what can do."

The Broncos have signed another linebacker,
David Veikune, to take Moss' spot on the 53-
man roster. Veikune played in 10 games for the
Cleveland Browns last year. He was a second-
round pick in 2009.

What people might have forgotten about Moss is
that two months into his rookie year, he suffered
a fractured tibia near the ankle that ended his
season.

What people might have forgotten about Moss is
the Broncos' personnel people who pushed to
make him the No. 17 overall selection in the
2007 NFL Draft — defensive coordinator Jim
Bates, and regional scout Jeff Goodman — were
dismissed before they could see the pass
rusher's progress through. Bates was fired after
the 2007 season; Goodman after 2008.

Considered an elite pass rusher when he was
drafted out of the University of Florida, Moss was
also perhaps victimized in the NFL by his
"tweener" size — 6-foot-7, 250 pounds when he
was drafted. He's a little light when it comes to
stopping the run as a defensive end and a bit
gangly as outside linebackers go.

"Sometimes you're drafted to a team where the
coaches try to make you fit their system," said
Ayers, who in 2009 became another defensive
end/outside linebacker drafted in the first round
by the Broncos. "People don't realize how much a
system means to a player's success. I can
definitely say that Jarvis Moss can play in this
league. There's a lot of guys in the league who
have been released and go on to have success.
Jarvis knows that. He's going to be fine."

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_16637970

**the Talking Can** · 11-17-2010, 03:18 PM

cue knowhomo

Sofa King · 11-17-2010, 03:23 PM

He would start for the Chiefs, we're just really deep at LBer and DE /knowmo

suds79 · 11-17-2010, 03:23 PM

While I'm sure Bronco fans wish they wouldn't have whiffed on Moss in the 1st place, I can respect it when a team cuts bait rather than holding onto a guy out of fear to admit they made a mistake (COUGH: Cassel & Jackson).

**Bane** · 11-17-2010, 03:24 PM

Hmmmm.Redo!
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vailpass · 11-17-2010, 03:26 PM

Word is that Mays' game against KC gave them confidence to release Moss, figuring Mays can hold the fort until Ayers retruns. They liked his tenacity and explosiveness. Moekaki would agree if he could remember the game.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

While I'm sure Bronco fans wish they wouldn't have whiffed on Moss in the 1st place, I can respect it when a team cuts bait rather than holding onto a guy out of fear to admit they made a mistake (COUGH: Cassel & Jackson).

To be fair, this is Moss' 4th season.

Mr. Laz · 11-17-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

While I'm sure Bronco fans wish they wouldn't have whiffed on Moss in the 1st place, I can respect it when a team cuts bait rather than holding onto a guy out of fear to admit they made a mistake (COUGH: Cassel & Jackson).

omg ... you don't cut Jackson after 21 games

suds79 · 11-17-2010, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD

To be fair, this is Moss' 4th season.

Lets hope Scott is ahead of the curve at least on Matt.

chiefsnorth · 11-17-2010, 03:42 PM

Mays seems like a fine player, but given his build, I wonder if he might be on roids.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

Lets hope Scott is ahead of the curve at least on Matt.

I'm willing to give Jackson a 3rd season, but Cassel needs to go now.

vailpass · 11-17-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsnorth

Mays seems like a fine player, but given his build, I wonder if he might be on roids.

God I hope so.

**The Franchise** · 11-17-2010, 03:44 PM

The dude was never an OLB in the 3-4 system. He'll catch on as a DE in the 4-3 somewhere.

vailpass · 11-17-2010, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

The dude was never an OLB in the 3-4 system. He'll catch on as a DE in the 4-3 somewhere.

3-4 ****s with a lot of players, no doubt about it. I don't know if it was the system or if Moss just can't hack it in the NFL.

LiL stumppy · 11-17-2010, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

While I'm sure Bronco fans wish they wouldn't have whiffed on Moss in the 1st place, I can respect it when a team cuts bait rather than holding onto a guy out of fear to admit they made a mistake (COUGH: Cassel & Jackson).

I am glad people like you don't and never will run a front office.

With that thinking on Jackson, we would have cut Dorsey a year and half ago because he wasn't dominating...

Good thing we gave him time to develop huh?

Nope, Jackson sucks, he doesn't get as long as Dorsey.

Dumbass

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