Draft Theme 2011

Dante84 · 03-24-2011, 11:31 PM

It seems like Pioli is a man with a plan. He is very calculated, very deliberate. Whether or not you believe he is correct or headed in the right direction is up to you. (I think his resume speaks for itself, though, so you are a dumbass if you think he's a dumbass.)

Year 1 had a Special Teams theme to it, by selecting Lawrence, Washington, and Succup. Obviously we were a shit team heading into it, so we had to pick fires to put out everywhere.

Last year, we drafted players with two themes in mind: 1. Speed, and 2. Leadership Ability.

Speed
We took players like Javi and Dex early, when prognosticators would have had us picking other positions/player types. Lewis was a speed upgrade over our old-ass safeties and Berry, of course, is fast as shit.

Leadership Ability
All but one of our picks was a Team Captain, if I remember correctly.

This Year
So let's assume Pioli has a theme coming into this draft. What are some universal themes, or character traits, that we will seek out? Please share a theme, and 2-3 players you have in mind that might fit that theme.

I'm trying to steer clear of "this position" vs. "that position" since that's in every other draft thread anyways. I'm more looking for discussion on what you think our theme/s could be for this draft.

**Reaper16** · 03-24-2011, 11:40 PM

"Lunchpail Guys"

Dante84 · 03-24-2011, 11:40 PM

I'm thinking some potential themes are:
- Leadership Ability (again)
- I think a key one for this year could be Intelligence. We've seen what Berry brought to the table last year. Even if he wasnt as physically talented as he is, he was most always in the right spot, knowing what to do. Vrabel is another great example. He is trash physically, but he knows what to do and where to be. On the flip side, Brodie has a killer arm. He is also a dumbass. Bowe is a beast, but he has some stupid moments like forgetting his route, losing focus, or being unsure of where to line up.

That would be my guess for this year. Intelligence and/or High Football IQ.

BigCatDaddy · 03-25-2011, 08:47 AM

Play maker AKA

A DT that can penetrate or push a C into the QB's nutsack, a WR that stretch the field, an OLB that can rush the passer and well, a QB but probably of the backup variety for now.

Chiefnj2 · 03-25-2011, 10:19 AM

I don't see last year as a speed year.

Dex was a 4.53. For a 175lb player, it isn't anything special. Arenas was a 4.60 at the combine.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2011, 10:21 AM

Hopefully the theme this year is actually filling the ****ing holes that we have on this team.

ToxSocks · 03-25-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I don't see last year as a speed year.

Dex was a 4.53. For a 175lb player, it isn't anything special. Arenas was a 4.60 at the combine.

Pioli and Haley have been quoted multiple times saying that there goal was to draft more speed.

Both of those players you mentioned play faster than they time. especially Dex, who is much more quick than fast.

ToxSocks · 03-25-2011, 10:24 AM

i think they'll stick with the same themes they had last year since it worked for them.

Chiefnj2 · 03-25-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

i think they'll stick with the same themes they had last year since it worked for them.

Less than 300 combined rushing and receiving yards for an early 2nd round pick, in one of the deepest drafts in NFL history, didn't work too well.

BigCatDaddy · 03-25-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Less than 300 combined rushing and receiving yards for an early 2nd round pick, in one of the deepest drafts in NFL history, didn't work too well.

4 out or those 7 guys will start this year and it should be 5 since Arenas plays a ton of snaps as it is. They were 2nd only to the Patriots in games played by rookies last year at 51 and won the division. I'll take that. And who knows, maybe Scheffield takes over the starting OLB position and you have all 7 guys being major contributors this year.

Chiefnj2 · 03-25-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

4 out or those 7 guys will start this year and it should be 5 since Arenas plays a ton of snaps as it is. They were 2nd only to the Patriots in games played by rookies last year at 51 and won the division. I'll take that.

4 of 7 should start on a team that had won 10 games combined over a three year period.

BigCatDaddy · 03-25-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

4 of 7 should start on a team that had won 10 games combined over a three year period.

So the fact they helped take that team to a division title really says a lot.

You are also siting yearly stats for a guy that missed 6 games.

ToxSocks · 03-25-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the fact they helped take that team to a division title really says a lot.

You are also siting yearly stats for a guy that missed 6 games.

Not only that, but he had several big plays taken back on stupid penalties. He's an explosive, dynamic player. People who want to point at stats are just trying to attack the draft w/o looking at it w/ any sort of objectivity.

Chiefnj2 · 03-25-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the fact they helped take that team to a division title really says a lot.

You are also siting yearly stats for a guy that missed 6 games.

Is that supposed to make me feel better? The fact that a 175lb player may not be able to take 16 games of NFL punishment?

BigCatDaddy · 03-25-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Is that supposed to make me feel better? The fact that a 175lb player may not be able to take 16 games of NFL punishment?

He had a high ankle sprain just as Best did so I'm not sure that's relevant. A broken bone, or shoulder seperation I suppose it's possible. It's not like he was plagued with injuries at Ole Miss even though he had a ton of touches.

Do you honestly not think that was a pretty damn good draft overall?

03-24-2011, 11:31 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1531996 VARSITY	Draft Theme 2011 It seems like Pioli is a man with a plan. He is very calculated, very deliberate. Whether or not you believe he is correct or headed in the right direction is up to you. (I think his resume speaks for itself, though, so you are a dumbass if you think he's a dumbass.) Year 1 had a Special Teams theme to it, by selecting Lawrence, Washington, and Succup. Obviously we were a shit team heading into it, so we had to pick fires to put out everywhere. Last year, we drafted players with two themes in mind: 1. Speed, and 2. Leadership Ability. Speed We took players like Javi and Dex early, when prognosticators would have had us picking other positions/player types. Lewis was a speed upgrade over our old-ass safeties and Berry, of course, is fast as shit. Leadership Ability All but one of our picks was a Team Captain, if I remember correctly. This Year So let's assume Pioli has a theme coming into this draft. What are some universal themes, or character traits, that we will seek out? Please share a theme, and 2-3 players you have in mind that might fit that theme. I'm trying to steer clear of "this position" vs. "that position" since that's in every other draft thread anyways. I'm more looking for discussion on what you think our theme/s could be for this draft.
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03-24-2011, 11:40 PM	#3
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1531996 VARSITY	I'm thinking some potential themes are: - Leadership Ability (again) - I think a key one for this year could be Intelligence. We've seen what Berry brought to the table last year. Even if he wasnt as physically talented as he is, he was most always in the right spot, knowing what to do. Vrabel is another great example. He is trash physically, but he knows what to do and where to be. On the flip side, Brodie has a killer arm. He is also a dumbass. Bowe is a beast, but he has some stupid moments like forgetting his route, losing focus, or being unsure of where to line up. That would be my guess for this year. Intelligence and/or High Football IQ. __________________ ..
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03-25-2011, 08:47 AM	#4
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1759122	Play maker AKA A DT that can penetrate or push a C into the QB's nutsack, a WR that stretch the field, an OLB that can rush the passer and well, a QB but probably of the backup variety for now. Last edited by BigCatDaddy; 03-25-2011 at 09:04 AM..
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03-25-2011, 10:19 AM	#5
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7823688	I don't see last year as a speed year. Dex was a 4.53. For a 175lb player, it isn't anything special. Arenas was a 4.60 at the combine. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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03-25-2011, 10:21 AM	#6
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2845047	Hopefully the theme this year is actually filling the ****ing holes that we have on this team.
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03-25-2011, 10:24 AM	#8
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4064563	i think they'll stick with the same themes they had last year since it worked for them. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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