Football Big Names at lockout Negotiations ... prepared to stay weekend to close deal

Mr. Laz · 07-07-2011, 09:07 AM

Familiar Faces At NFL, NFLPA Negotiations

As expected, the ten NFL owners and players who have joined Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith today in Manhattan have been frequent participants throughout the labor talks.

Albert Breer of the NFL Network reports that Robert Kraft (New England), John Mara (NY Giants), Jerry Jones (Dallas), Clark Hunt (Kansas City), and Art Rooney (Pittsburgh) will represent the ownership group today. All five are members of the NFL Management Council Executive Committee.

On the Players' side, Breer has Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch, Indianapolis Colts center Jeff Saturday, Baltimore Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth, NFLPA president Kevin Mawae and former NFL wide receiver Sean Morey have joined Smith.

Through a pair of pictures taken outside the talks over the last two days, the two sides appear to be meeting at the New York offices of Proskauer Rose, a firm which has advised nearly every major sports league and where NFL outside counsel Bob Batterman has been partner since 1974.

Mr. Laz · 07-07-2011, 09:09 AM

Owners, players join NFL talks
ESPN.com news services

Negotiations Continue

Sal Paolantonio talks about what to expect as the negotiations between the NFL, NFLPA continueTags: SportsCenter, Sal Paolantonio, Roger Goodell, DeMaurice Smith, NFLPA, CBA, NFL Lockout

NEW YORK -- Members of the NFL Players Association executive board and owners resumed negotiations Thursday at a law firm in Manhattan in hopes of resolving a lockout that began in March.

ESPN NFL reporter Sal Paolantonio says the death of John Mackey is a reminder for the players of what they are fighting for. Paolantonio also talks about the current state of the lockout.

Sources told ESPN on Wednesday afternoon that both sides hope to achieve a true framework for a new collective bargaining agreement by the close of business on Friday. Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, owners and players are involved in the talks Thursday to finalize the details of a new revenue split, which is getting closer to agreement.

Putting more pressure on the negotiators, U.S. District Judge Arthur Boylan, the mediator in the talks, is scheduled to go on vacation Saturday, sources said. But both sides are committed to stay in New York this weekend to try to finish the deal. The sides have not gotten together on weekends during negotiations in the past month.
Entering the building Thursday were several executive board members, including Smith, president Kevin Mawae and team owners including Robert Kraft of the Patriots, John Mara of the New York Giants and Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys.
Lawyers for both sides met the last two days to do paperwork toward a new collective bargaining agreement. On Wednesday, they negotiated details for free agency and training camps once the NFL is re-opened for business.

The players have so far rejected any deal that allows teams to have a right of first refusal on offers for up to three of their own free agents. Said one agent: "That punishes the top guys."

Also, teams would be allowed to bring in 80 to 90 players to training camp to allow for injuries and rust because of the lockout, which reached its 114th day Thursday.
Time is gradually becoming a factor in the discussions. Training camps for the St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears are scheduled to open July 22, with those teams scheduled to play in the Hall of Fame Game Aug. 7 in Canton, Ohio.

The rest of the training camps would open about a week later, with a full slate of preseason games set for the second weekend in August.

Information from ESPN national correspondent Sal Paolantonio, ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen, ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report.

ZootedGranny · 07-07-2011, 09:23 AM

I read that Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson showed up to voice their displeasure, and Kraft and Hunt threw them into the back of a passing garbage truck.

NaptownChief · 07-07-2011, 09:33 AM

I'm really interested to see if Peyton Manning is able to avoid the franchise tag. If so the Colts are eff'd. I honestly think he wants to go play for a team that can actually win a game even if he doesn't throw for 350 yards and 3 TD's. I have a gut feeling he ends up with the Jets if he can't be tagged. Very good D and running game is something the Colts haven't ever been able to offer in tandem. Having a coach that isn't lost and confused on the sidelines might be of interest as well especially after that bone head TO that cost them the Jets game last year.
>>
Watching Rothlisberger and A.Rodgers stink it up in one of those playoffs games last year and still move onto the Super Bowl because of defense is something that had to get his attention. >>
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Plus New York is convenient for family with Eli already there and it would only boost his endorsement deals being in that market. I also think Rex Ryan's comment about guaranteeing the Super Bowl might have had something to do with this knowledge.>>
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If it were about just money then Manning would have signed last season as the Colts were offering him the biggest contract in NFL history and he had no interest in signing it. Clearly Manning wants something and my guess is to give himself a much better chance to get more rings. >>

Jewish Rabbi · 07-07-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I'm really interested to see if Peyton Manning is able to avoid the franchise tag. If so the Colts are eff'd. I honestly think he wants to go play for a team that can actually win a game even if he doesn't throw for 350 yards and 3 TD's. I have a gut feeling he ends up with the Jets if he can't be tagged. Very good D and running game is something the Colts haven't ever been able to offer in tandem. Having a coach that isn't lost and confused on the sidelines might be of interest as well especially after that bone head TO that cost them the Jets game last year.
>>
Watching Rothlisberger and A.Rodgers stink it up in one of those playoffs games last year and still move onto the Super Bowl because of defense is something that had to get his attention. >>
>>
Plus New York is convenient for family with Eli already there and it would only boost his endorsement deals being in that market. I also think Rex Ryan's comment about guaranteeing the Super Bowl might have had something to do with this knowledge.>>
>>
If it were about just money then Manning would have signed last season as the Colts were offering him the biggest contract in NFL history and he had no interest in signing it. Clearly Manning wants something and my guess is to give himself a much better chance to get more rings. >>

Lex Luthor · 07-07-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

I think Naptown Chief must be a Jets fan.

ModSocks · 07-07-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I'm really interested to see if Peyton Manning is able to avoid the franchise tag. If so the Colts are eff'd. I honestly think he wants to go play for a team that can actually win a game even if he doesn't throw for 350 yards and 3 TD's. I have a gut feeling he ends up with the Jets if he can't be tagged. Very good D and running game is something the Colts haven't ever been able to offer in tandem. Having a coach that isn't lost and confused on the sidelines might be of interest as well especially after that bone head TO that cost them the Jets game last year.
>>
Watching Rothlisberger and A.Rodgers stink it up in one of those playoffs games last year and still move onto the Super Bowl because of defense is something that had to get his attention. >>
>>
Plus New York is convenient for family with Eli already there and it would only boost his endorsement deals being in that market. I also think Rex Ryan's comment about guaranteeing the Super Bowl might have had something to do with this knowledge.>>
>>
If it were about just money then Manning would have signed last season as the Colts were offering him the biggest contract in NFL history and he had no interest in signing it. Clearly Manning wants something and my guess is to give himself a much better chance to get more rings. >>

We'll chalk that up to "new baby Afterglow effect".

But you only get one.

NaptownChief · 07-07-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

I think Naptown Chief must be a Jets fan.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, a good handful of it deserved, but never been called something as nasty as that.

Okie_Apparition · 07-07-2011, 09:56 AM

The epic meltdown, by what has been described to me as major douchbag fans, would rock.

NaptownChief · 07-07-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

The epic meltdown, by what has been described to me as major douchbag fans, would rock.

Colts fans?

Okie_Apparition · 07-07-2011, 10:06 AM

After Chieffan's reactions to treatment at the playoff game in Indy& the board being littered(not meaning trashed or trashy/sprinkled in?) with Pats fans. The Coltfan is not held in high regard in these parts

**The Franchise** · 07-07-2011, 10:09 AM

Peyton Manning will never leave Indy.

NaptownChief · 07-07-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

After Chieffan's reactions to treatment at the playoff game in Indy& the board being littered with Pats fans. The Coltfan is not held in high regard in these parts

There will be a huge meltdown here in Indy if Manning gets away....and rightfully so. Polian is such an arrogant prick that he makes Carl Peterson seem humble by comparison. Polian has rode the back of Manning his entire time in Indy. The Colts have a awful OLine, poor defense, poor running game and a rotten head coach. They are a 2-14 team without Manning making is look respectable. I would very much enjoy watching Polian get run into the ground.

Brock · 07-07-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

There will be a huge meltdown here in Indy if Manning gets away....and rightfully so. Polian is such an arrogant prick that he makes Carl Peterson seem humble by comparison. Polian has rode the back of Manning his entire time in Indy. The Colts have a awful OLine, poor defense, poor running game and a rotten head coach. They are a 2-14 team without Manning making is look respectable. I would very much enjoy watching Polian get run into the ground.

I would enjoy this very much.

Hydrae · 07-07-2011, 10:18 AM

When are they going to throw out the Brady lawsuit? It is extremely obvious that the NFLPA did not actually de-certify.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Owners, players join NFL talks ESPN.com news services Negotiations Continue Sal Paolantonio talks about what to expect as the negotiations between the NFL, NFLPA continueTags: SportsCenter, Sal Paolantonio, Roger Goodell, DeMaurice Smith, NFLPA, CBA, NFL Lockout NEW YORK -- Members of the NFL Players Association executive board and owners resumed negotiations Thursday at a law firm in Manhattan in hopes of resolving a lockout that began in March. ESPN NFL reporter Sal Paolantonio says the death of John Mackey is a reminder for the players of what they are fighting for. Paolantonio also talks about the current state of the lockout. Sources told ESPN on Wednesday afternoon that both sides hope to achieve a true framework for a new collective bargaining agreement by the close of business on Friday. Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, owners and players are involved in the talks Thursday to finalize the details of a new revenue split, which is getting closer to agreement. Putting more pressure on the negotiators, U.S. District Judge Arthur Boylan, the mediator in the talks, is scheduled to go on vacation Saturday, sources said. But both sides are committed to stay in New York this weekend to try to finish the deal. The sides have not gotten together on weekends during negotiations in the past month. Entering the building Thursday were several executive board members, including Smith, president Kevin Mawae and team owners including Robert Kraft of the Patriots, John Mara of the New York Giants and Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys. Lawyers for both sides met the last two days to do paperwork toward a new collective bargaining agreement. On Wednesday, they negotiated details for free agency and training camps once the NFL is re-opened for business. The players have so far rejected any deal that allows teams to have a right of first refusal on offers for up to three of their own free agents. Said one agent: "That punishes the top guys." Also, teams would be allowed to bring in 80 to 90 players to training camp to allow for injuries and rust because of the lockout, which reached its 114th day Thursday. Time is gradually becoming a factor in the discussions. Training camps for the St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears are scheduled to open July 22, with those teams scheduled to play in the Hall of Fame Game Aug. 7 in Canton, Ohio. The rest of the training camps would open about a week later, with a full slate of preseason games set for the second weekend in August. Information from ESPN national correspondent Sal Paolantonio, ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen, ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report. __________________
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NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	I'm really interested to see if Peyton Manning is able to avoid the franchise tag. If so the Colts are eff'd. I honestly think he wants to go play for a team that can actually win a game even if he doesn't throw for 350 yards and 3 TD's. I have a gut feeling he ends up with the Jets if he can't be tagged. Very good D and running game is something the Colts haven't ever been able to offer in tandem. Having a coach that isn't lost and confused on the sidelines might be of interest as well especially after that bone head TO that cost them the Jets game last year. >> Watching Rothlisberger and A.Rodgers stink it up in one of those playoffs games last year and still move onto the Super Bowl because of defense is something that had to get his attention. >> >> Plus New York is convenient for family with Eli already there and it would only boost his endorsement deals being in that market. I also think Rex Ryan's comment about guaranteeing the Super Bowl might have had something to do with this knowledge.>> >> If it were about just money then Manning would have signed last season as the Colts were offering him the biggest contract in NFL history and he had no interest in signing it. Clearly Manning wants something and my guess is to give himself a much better chance to get more rings. >> __________________ "We weren't worth a damn," the Kansas City Chiefs head coach said, shaking his head. "I'm not worth a damn. No one's worth a damn..." Former President of the Eric Downing Fan Club and Current President of the Kris"Secret Weapon"Wilson Fan Club
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