Missing Money in Education

[Duck Dog]

Pam,
I don't mind spending more money but only if we go to a voucher system. The US Department of education cannot account for $400,000,000 in missing funds this year alone. The present system is a complete failure. Maybe they can find some of the funds to keep your district open there.
BIG DADDY

Big Daddy, YOu are misinformed once again. That money is not "missing" it is money earmarked for schools (like Decatur) that will lose revenue. There is a pool every year this is what you think is missing. The Federal Government spreads this out over the schools that are hurting the most and works its way down the list. When it is gone, that is it. We may receive 1/4th of the revenue that we lose due to lessor enrollment.

This fund is called--lost revenue fund.

[Bob Dole]

Pam wrote,
"It has nothing to do with how good teachers are or are not. IT is strictly about money."

This is soley responsible for how bad our schools are today. The focus is on the money or the quality of the teaching and not on the kids.

Selfish teachers cans stay selfish as far as I'm concerned but they better damn well start getting results whether they have to "coach" or "teach" or whatever. <P>

[Bob Dole]

Pam I hope your not ignorant enough to think that relying on the federal government is what is going to make a difference in the quality of education for our kids in the U.S.


That's a complete joke.

[ansonsdad]

Pam,
Why don't you answer the thousand other questions people asked you in you last thread before you post another.

BIG DADDY
Is sick and tired of your hit and run, or should I say post and run BS

Pam,

I understand how you feel, and realize that this is an unpopular stance, but think about this:

If Wal-Mart loses customers and can't cover it's costs, does the government step in and help them?

Private school enrollment has increased some 110% in the last 5 years. Could it be possible that "lesser enrollment" is due to an inferior product?

That $400,000,000 million is WASTED. The schools that are failing will continue to fail, regardless of how much free money they get, because the focus is on funding rather than on education.

Again, don't take this the wrong way, I'm sure you're an excellent teacher. But there are too many out there to count that aren't, and can't be taken care of because of tenure. Not to mention the fact that there's usually more cops than teachers on campus anyway.

Just like in every other example in the modern world, capitalism is winning out over socialism. Public schools are no different. Put out an offering that is equally enticing as the public schools and maybe the competition would be better, but right now it sounds like you're resigning yourself to waiting for government handouts instead of trying to make your school better. Sound like the "new" American way.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator[/b]

[This message has been edited by htismaqe (edited 11-02-2000).]

[redbrian]

If the federal government shouldn't step in and help public schools, then they shouldn't help farmers, either.

[Bob Dole]

She dodges questions almost as good as clinton dodges drafts. LOL

[TCB]

htismaqe,

are you suggesting that a decent education should be available to those who can pay for it?

Clint,

I AGREE with you. I come from southern Iowa and all you can hear for miles on Saturday mornings is all the farmers drinking their coffee and BITCHING about how hard they have it. I won't even go into the multitude of reasons that they don't have any reason to ***** , as the forum doesn't allow that many characters in a post.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

[redbrian]

Private schools are clearly superior to public schools as far as the quality of education received by students, but I'm not "in the loop" because I haven't been to public schools in so long, and my first kid won't be born for 5 months. Here are a couple of questions:

1. Is there any such thing as a "competitively priced" private school?

2. Are there private schools with no religious ties?

CRP,

Currently in the small town I'm from, private school and public school cost roughly the same, once all the local fees and taxes are added in.

I'm not saying that education shouldn't be available, I'm saying that if schools want to end this paranoia of "waiting for a check" that Pam is talking about, they should concentrate on retaining students and improving enrollment, instead of spending all their time worrying about when they're going to get their check. That's precisely why private schools do so well. They concentrate on exactly those things because it increases REVENUE.

I feel strongly that EVERYONE should have to compete. It's not fair for some to work and slave and scratch and save, only to have others extend their hand and get a free ride from the government.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

[TCB]

you would complain if those bitching farmers didn't provide you a meal.

Clint,

Yes there are private schools without religious ties, however, the privatization of schools gained impetus because of the lack of sensitivity to religious issues in school.

There's alot of private schools nowadays that are religious in name only. I went to a Methodist college, and the only time it came into play was that the Methodist church gave 2 kids a year scholarships to attend school there.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

CRP,

I don't need to be lectured on "where my next meal is coming from." I grew up on a farm, as a member of a family of 6 generations of farmers. I know the business fairly well, and while it's not easy, it's not as hard as they make it sound.

Besides, 90% of the private farmers DON'T feed me or you or ANYONE. 700 out of their 800 acres is laying fallow, as part of a LAND MANAGEMENT program subsidized by the government.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

HAHA, I just noticed that RedPant's initials match that governent program I was talking about...

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>