Russell Wilson

melbar · 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM

Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much?

CBSsports

Analysis
Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out.

Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist.

Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw.

Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second.

On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield.

Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …

Nightfyre · 04-11-2012, 09:14 PM

Initially, I recall watching tape on wilson and there being something particular about him I didn't like. Then I went and watched his ultimate highlights for 2011 video and I thought to myself: "Hey, he appears to have a gun and touch and stuff. But he's 5'11". Can he be Drew Brees?" I'd take a flier on him.

Bewbies · 04-11-2012, 09:18 PM

The last stud QB that was short I would have liked was Seneca Wallace. He was a stud. In the NFL not so much. There is something to be said about midget QB's.

Nightfyre · 04-11-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

The last stud QB that was short I would have liked was Seneca Wallace. He was a stud. In the NFL not so much. There is something to be said about midget QB's.

I think he could be worth a shot in the late-round-dark. Call me crazy.

Bewbies · 04-11-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think he could be worth a shot in the late-round-dark. Call me crazy.

I might use a 7 on him. But if we are using a 7 on him it means we didn't take a QB earlier. That I don't want.

melbar · 04-11-2012, 09:22 PM

I liked that he worked in 2 pro-style offenses and picked them up quickly. Gruden drew up a play and had him name the play in both terminoligies. Guy didnt even hesitate. Also, he was succesfull with a line that averaged 6ft 6. He also has a great arm and incredible accuracy.

This kid could be a steal.

Urc Burry · 04-11-2012, 09:24 PM

Did you watch him at the senior bowl? I wouldn't consider him until the 7th

**Bowser** · 04-11-2012, 09:25 PM

I brought his name up back in the fall and was immediately showered with the **** THAT HE SUCKS responses.

I'd definitley take a look at him in the mid rounds.

melbar · 04-11-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I might use a 7 on him. But if we are using a 7 on him it means we didn't take a QB earlier. That I don't want.

I know he's short, but this guy had a higher QB rating than Luck by 22 pts. Its a strike, but a kid like that with character, intelligence, production, experience, and arm strength is worth a little higher investment.

Besides...he'll probably have a chip on his tiny little shoulders!

melbar · 04-11-2012, 09:32 PM

Honestly, I havent seen a lot of him till recently, but in looking at several draft evaluations I'm reading that if he were 2 inches taller he would be rated higher than Luck. Thats pretty high praise, and worth a mid round look to see if he can overcome that 1 (albeit large) flaw. MOst players have a lot more problems to overcome coming in.

Urc Burry · 04-11-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Honestly, I havent seen a lot of him till recently, but in looking at several draft evaluations I'm reading that if he were 2 inches taller he would be rated higher than Luck. Thats pretty high praise, and worth a mid round look to see if he can overcome that 1 (albeit large) flaw. MOst players have a lot more problems to overcome coming in.

If he was 2 inches taller he MIGHT be considered in the 4th.

**lewdog** · 04-11-2012, 10:26 PM

I would rather take Wilson in the 3rd-4th than Osweiner in the 2nd.

Nightfyre · 04-11-2012, 11:39 PM

I can't find any references I made to Wilson. It could be I was thinking of a post about Kellen Moore. That guy has zero chance in the NFL. I'd give Wilson an outside shot.

melbar · 04-12-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

If he was 2 inches taller he MIGHT be considered in the 4th.

4th or 5th is where he's considered NOW. But Im sure you know more than cbs sports, lindys, Hodge, and Mayock....

out of curiosity, Which factor do you feel is holding him back? The highest QB rating in all of college fb, mastering of 2 pro systems, team leadership, above average ARM, bowl game victory, pinpoint acuracy, team captainship, best in college td to int ratio......? What exactly are you looking for here?

**the Talking Can** · 04-12-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Honestly, I havent seen a lot of him till recently, but in looking at several draft evaluations I'm reading that if he were 2 inches taller he would be rated higher than Luck. Thats pretty high praise, and worth a mid round look to see if he can overcome that 1 (albeit large) flaw. MOst players have a lot more problems to overcome coming in.

he could be 8 ft tall and not be higher rated than Luck...I'd love to know who said something so absurd...

04-11-2012, 08:52 PM
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Russell Wilson Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much? CBSsports Analysis Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out. Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist. Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw. Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second. On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield. Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …
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04-11-2012, 09:14 PM	#2
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3548849	Initially, I recall watching tape on wilson and there being something particular about him I didn't like. Then I went and watched his ultimate highlights for 2011 video and I thought to myself: "Hey, he appears to have a gun and touch and stuff. But he's 5'11". Can he be Drew Brees?" I'd take a flier on him.
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04-11-2012, 09:18 PM	#3
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	The last stud QB that was short I would have liked was Seneca Wallace. He was a stud. In the NFL not so much. There is something to be said about midget QB's.
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04-11-2012, 09:22 PM	#6
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	I liked that he worked in 2 pro-style offenses and picked them up quickly. Gruden drew up a play and had him name the play in both terminoligies. Guy didnt even hesitate. Also, he was succesfull with a line that averaged 6ft 6. He also has a great arm and incredible accuracy. This kid could be a steal. __________________
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04-11-2012, 09:24 PM	#7
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9031048	Did you watch him at the senior bowl? I wouldn't consider him until the 7th
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04-11-2012, 09:25 PM	#8
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3341616	I brought his name up back in the fall and was immediately showered with the **** THAT HE SUCKS responses. I'd definitley take a look at him in the mid rounds.
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04-11-2012, 09:32 PM	#10
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Honestly, I havent seen a lot of him till recently, but in looking at several draft evaluations I'm reading that if he were 2 inches taller he would be rated higher than Luck. Thats pretty high praise, and worth a mid round look to see if he can overcome that 1 (albeit large) flaw. MOst players have a lot more problems to overcome coming in. __________________
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04-11-2012, 10:26 PM	#12
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $1801900	I would rather take Wilson in the 3rd-4th than Osweiner in the 2nd.
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04-11-2012, 11:39 PM	#13
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3548849	I can't find any references I made to Wilson. It could be I was thinking of a post about Kellen Moore. That guy has zero chance in the NFL. I'd give Wilson an outside shot.
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