Chiefs Peter King on his camp visit to KC

Chiefnj2 · 08:01 AM

Wednesday: Chiefs (Missouri Western State University, St. Joseph, Mo.)

Peter King's team report: Chiefs
Source: SI

SI.com's Peter King visits the Chiefs training camp and says that with a stacked wide receiver group, a healthy Jamaal Charles and a recharged Matt Cassel, Kansas City may be a sleeper contender in the AFC West.

Three football nuggets: Dexter McCluster might be listed as a running back on the roster, but he's not anymore. The Chiefs plan to use him as a slot receiver consistently, with Jonathan Baldwin and Dwayne Bowe on the outside ...

Speaking of Bowe, who just signed his one-year franchise tender and reported Friday, you might look at the calendar and say, "It's Aug. 20, three weeks before the opener. Plenty of time for him to get in the playbook and get ready for opening day.'' Not so fast. The new Brian Daboll offense he hasn't spent five minutes learning yet has far more motions and shifts than the offense Bowe played in last year under coach Todd Haley. To think he'll learn the scheme well in three weeks is not realistic. Not saying he won't be active in Week 1, but he certainly won't know everything he needs to know to flourish in the offense. ...

The Jamaal Charles-Peyton Hillis backfield, if Hillis has his head on straight (which he has so far) and Charles' surgically repaired knee holds up, could be the NFL's best. It's the classic Mr. Inside (Hillis, a sledgehammer, at 250 pounds) and Mr. Outside (the shifty Charles weighs 199).

This team seems happy with the coaching change.

Let's make one thing clear: The Chiefs weren't 7-9 last year because they didn't like their coach. They were 7-9 because they were a M*A*S*H unit by midseason, because Matt Cassel was just OK when he did play, and because Tyler Palko threw a third of the team's 2011 passes. In many way, they're fortunate to have won seven games.

But there's little doubt these players are breathing easier with a coach they like and respect more than Todd Haley. "It had to happen,'' one player said of Haley leaving and Romeo Crennel replacing him. "Players were afraid of speaking up. The environment just wasn't healthy. I think it really wore on Matt.''

Cassel, who missed the final seven games after breaking his hand against Denver, has chosen not to say much about Haley. The ex-coach's father, former Steeler personnel man Dick Haley, told the Pittsburgh Tribune Review that Cassel was "real average'' and "it didn't surprise me what happened in Kansas City.''

Todd Haley and Cassel argued on the sidelines at least twice in view of network cameras, and their relationship always seemed on edge. When I spoke with Cassel, it was as much what he didn't say about Haley as what he said about how he's being coached now by new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.

"I like how he lets me play the quarterback position,'' Cassel said. "I'm not afraid to give my opinion, or to change the play. Some other times, I've been afraid to do that. But [Daboll] says, 'You're the quarterback. If you see something different out there, you've got to act on it.' ''

Cassel spent time working out with throwing-mechanics maestro Tom House, the former major league reliever, in the offseason. For two weeks, he joined Carson Palmer, Alex Smith and Tom Brady at USC, learning the way his body should move to maximize his throwing strength and minimize any discomfort he has throwing. "Just as a golfer has swing thoughts, now I have throwing thoughts,'' Cassel said. "It's nothing really major, but it makes you feel good when you know you've gotten an expert to break down everything about your motion.'' So far, so good. Cassel's completed 75 percent of his throws in the first two Chiefs preseason games.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz245peDaCl

Another tidbit in his column:

Stat of the Week

Ask Peter King
Source: SI

SI.com's Peter King takes some time off from his 2012 NFL tour to answer some of his followers Twitter questions.

If you watched the Chiefs much last year -- and in the NBC viewing room, we got to see a lot of every team -- you noticed a sloppy team. When I visited the Chiefs last week, I noticed new head coach Romeo Crennel and his staff spending time monitoring the little things -- defensive linemen stepping over bags in side-to-side drills properly, precision of snap counts, quickness in and out of the huddle, etc. Turns out the Chiefs were the league-leaders overall in dead-ball fouls. The Chiefs had:

• Twenty-seven false starts, tied for most in the NFL.

• Four encroachment penalties, tied for most in the NFL.

• Three 12-men-on-the-field penalties, second-most in the NFL.

• Three illegal shifts, two illegal motions and two illegal substitution penalties, all tied for most in the NFL.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz245vt2Zo4

Imon Yourside · 08-20-2012, 07:37 AM

Yup Superbowl or bust!

**ChiefGator** · 08-20-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Three football nuggets: Dexter McCluster might be listed as a running back on the roster, but he's not anymore. The Chiefs plan to use him as a slot receiver consistently, with Jonathan Baldwin and Dwayne Bowe on the outside ...

Music to everyone's ears here, I'm sure...

CoMoChief · 08-20-2012, 07:41 AM

Cassel does seem to have more zip on his passes.

Still has kind of a funky release IMO.

**notorious** · 08-20-2012, 07:43 AM

King has been a Chiefs supporter since the day Pioli took over.

Hell, the first year of Cassel, Pioli, and Haley he picked us to go 10-6 and win the division.

Imon Yourside · 08-20-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

King has been a Chiefs supporter since the day Pioli took over.

Hell, the first year of Cassel, Pioli, and Haley he picked us to go 10-6 and win the division.

Ya it is amazing to see the King transformation, he hated Carl with a passion.

boogblaster · 08-20-2012, 07:52 AM

king knows suck-up .....

**BossChief** · 08-20-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

King has been a Chiefs supporter since the day Pioli took over.

Hell, the first year of Cassel, Pioli, and Haley he picked us to go 10-6 and win the division.

And the second Cassel played above average, King wrote an article praising Cassel as a top 5 MVP candidate.

**SuperChief** · 08-20-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

king knows suck-up .....

Regarding most of your posts -

Fish · 08-20-2012, 08:32 AM

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But there's little doubt these players are breathing easier with a coach they like and respect more than Todd Haley. "It had to happen,'' one player said of Haley leaving and Romeo Crennel replacing him. "Players were afraid of speaking up. The environment just wasn't healthy. I think it really wore on Matt.''

Poor poor Matt.... so much adversity on the poor child. It's a wonder he manages to pull up his Superman underoos every morning...

Imon Yourside · 08-20-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Poor poor Matt.... so much adversity on the poor child. It's a wonder he manages to pull up his Superman underoos every morning...

That poor 50 million dollar man.......not a crap was given.

Ace Gunner · 08-20-2012, 08:37 AM

"If you watched the Chiefs much last year -- and in the NBC viewing room, we got to see a lot of every team -- you noticed a sloppy team"

Like the team that got clobbered by the Rams friday night? Heh.

All they needed was a coaching change. Sure. And Amon Gordon is a future star.

Mr. Laz · 08-20-2012, 11:48 AM

i can understand how anyone saying something positive about the Chiefs would piss you off.

Death2CasselFans · 08-20-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

That poor 50 million dollar man.......not a crap was given.

"They should've never gave you Nggas money!"

-Dave Chappelle

Micjones · 08-20-2012, 12:24 PM

So...Breaston's a WR4 now?

08-20-2012, 07:33 AM
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	Peter King on his camp visit to KC Wednesday: Chiefs (Missouri Western State University, St. Joseph, Mo.) Peter King's team report: Chiefs Source: SI SI.com's Peter King visits the Chiefs training camp and says that with a stacked wide receiver group, a healthy Jamaal Charles and a recharged Matt Cassel, Kansas City may be a sleeper contender in the AFC West. Three football nuggets: Dexter McCluster might be listed as a running back on the roster, but he's not anymore. The Chiefs plan to use him as a slot receiver consistently, with Jonathan Baldwin and Dwayne Bowe on the outside ... Speaking of Bowe, who just signed his one-year franchise tender and reported Friday, you might look at the calendar and say, "It's Aug. 20, three weeks before the opener. Plenty of time for him to get in the playbook and get ready for opening day.'' Not so fast. The new Brian Daboll offense he hasn't spent five minutes learning yet has far more motions and shifts than the offense Bowe played in last year under coach Todd Haley. To think he'll learn the scheme well in three weeks is not realistic. Not saying he won't be active in Week 1, but he certainly won't know everything he needs to know to flourish in the offense. ... The Jamaal Charles-Peyton Hillis backfield, if Hillis has his head on straight (which he has so far) and Charles' surgically repaired knee holds up, could be the NFL's best. It's the classic Mr. Inside (Hillis, a sledgehammer, at 250 pounds) and Mr. Outside (the shifty Charles weighs 199). This team seems happy with the coaching change. Let's make one thing clear: The Chiefs weren't 7-9 last year because they didn't like their coach. They were 7-9 because they were a MASH unit by midseason, because Matt Cassel was just OK when he did play, and because Tyler Palko threw a third of the team's 2011 passes. In many way, they're fortunate to have won seven games. But there's little doubt these players are breathing easier with a coach they like and respect more than Todd Haley. "It had to happen,'' one player said of Haley leaving and Romeo Crennel replacing him. "Players were afraid of speaking up. The environment just wasn't healthy. I think it really wore on Matt.'' Cassel, who missed the final seven games after breaking his hand against Denver, has chosen not to say much about Haley. The ex-coach's father, former Steeler personnel man Dick Haley, told the Pittsburgh Tribune Review that Cassel was "real average'' and "it didn't surprise me what happened in Kansas City.'' Todd Haley and Cassel argued on the sidelines at least twice in view of network cameras, and their relationship always seemed on edge. When I spoke with Cassel, it was as much what he didn't say about Haley as what he said about how he's being coached now by new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. "I like how he lets me play the quarterback position,'' Cassel said. "I'm not afraid to give my opinion, or to change the play. Some other times, I've been afraid to do that. But [Daboll] says, 'You're the quarterback. If you see something different out there, you've got to act on it.' '' Cassel spent time working out with throwing-mechanics maestro Tom House, the former major league reliever, in the offseason. For two weeks, he joined Carson Palmer, Alex Smith and Tom Brady at USC, learning the way his body should move to maximize his throwing strength and minimize any discomfort he has throwing. "Just as a golfer has swing thoughts, now I have throwing thoughts,'' Cassel said. "It's nothing really major, but it makes you feel good when you know you've gotten an expert to break down everything about your motion.'' So far, so good. Cassel's completed 75 percent of his throws in the first two Chiefs preseason games. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz245peDaCl Another tidbit in his column: Stat of the Week Ask Peter King Source: SI SI.com's Peter King takes some time off from his 2012 NFL tour to answer some of his followers Twitter questions. If you watched the Chiefs much last year -- and in the NBC viewing room, we got to see a lot of every team -- you noticed a sloppy team. When I visited the Chiefs last week, I noticed new head coach Romeo Crennel and his staff spending time monitoring the little things -- defensive linemen stepping over bags in side-to-side drills properly, precision of snap counts, quickness in and out of the huddle, etc. Turns out the Chiefs were the league-leaders overall in dead-ball fouls. The Chiefs had: • Twenty-seven false starts, tied for most in the NFL. • Four encroachment penalties, tied for most in the NFL. • Three 12-men-on-the-field penalties, second-most in the NFL. • Three illegal shifts, two illegal motions and two illegal substitution penalties, all tied for most in the NFL. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz245vt2Zo4 Last edited by Chiefnj2; 08-20-2012 at 08:01 AM..*
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