Chiefs Preseason observations - Week #2

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 10:37 AM

Didn't watch the game as in-depth as I did week 1. Frankly, when the second unit got on the field, I got a little bit bored.

OFFENSE

I had no problem with Alex Smith in week 1. This game, we saw a LOT more of the Alex Smith many of us were concerned about. Missed too many blitz pickups, held the ball too long when he wanted to go deeper, gave up on the pass too quickly in others. Not a good week for him.
Eric Fisher. JFC, guys. I get that he wasn't the guy many of us wanted at 1.1. I didn't either. But calling him a pussy for nursing a finger injury... it's really sad that people are wanting so badly for this guy to be terrible. The truth is, the injury doesn't matter, because he played through it and he played fine. He got beat once on a speed rush, and was beat twice because it was a coverage sack. He played well enough for a preseason rookie against an elite defense, injury or not.
If anything, I wasn't impressed at all with the interior blocking today. Jeff Allen, in particular, was mediocre
I was wrong about Knile Davis. Excellent game today. However, still a legit question about whether he is a pure space runner. He knows how to attack when there's a good size opening, but still unsure if he's powerful enough to break a wall or nifty enough to juke your way through a narrow hole
Cyrus Gray played his way out of a job. He was terrible. Inexcusable drop with the first team, no burst, no agility, and was the only return guy in 2 games to look useless. At least with Draughn, I see some acceleration and power
It dithgusts me that Baldwin is getting that many snaps. I don't want to see him in a Chiefs uniform. He is stealing reps from Avery and Hemmingway, who should be competing for that #2 spot with Baldwin nowhere in that picture
Chase Daniel - better, but it's going to be a problem if he starts. Horrible blitz recognition. Last week, very frazzled under pressure. This week, ran a checkdown heavy offense
Tyler Bray / Stanzi - Stanzi should be the backup and he should have gotten reps last year. Sadly, neither of those will happen and we'll never really know what we had in him. Bray... I took a lot of shit for suggesting the kid should be on the practice squad. I like the potential, but has a very, very long way to go. Looked extremely frazzled when pressured
Travis Kelce... man, had high hopes for the kid. Two inexcusable drops already this preseason on limited snaps.

DEFENSE

Defensive Line was solid. Poe didn't dominate like he did in Game 1, but he was very effective at driving his blocker. Tyson Jackson played a much better game too. On run defense, he was definitely moving his guy and looked like he was getting an upper hand. Good improvement
We wanted aggressive, and we're getting it. I'm worried if we're too aggressive. Too many plays where we overpursued. Teams that bootleg, counter, and cutback are going to break some big runs if we don't knock that shit off.
We've been playing vanilla offenses. I also fear that this aggressive approach is going to make us suckers for playaction and draws
Akeem Jordan has played solid. He hasn't played his way out of a job. But man, Nico Johnson has earned a right to get first team snaps. He was a man amongst boys with the second unit.
Allen Bailey needs to get snaps this year. He has to become more consistent, but the potential is there. There were a few drives where his strength is just unreal. Just bulldozes his blocker into the backfield
We are getting a small glimpse of how awesome Eric Berry could be this year. He's going to play a lot of positions, from LB to Nickel to SS to FS to FS in a 46. And we saw several instances where he just missiled through a gap. He looks like an entirely different player this year
I actually think our D-line played well in the pass rush. As 2-gap, they were occupying blockers and driving the pile more than I'm used to. I think that will really show once we dial up the blitz
Sean Smith is definitely taking to the bump-and-run. It's really hard to tell what we have in our other guys. What scares me is that Sutton seems to like playing his safeties in some nickel coverages, and in other cases, play them at pure Centerfield like a 46. I think Lewis is going to be a huge liability this year. He just hasn't been tested.
Hard to believe we're saying this, but we have strong safety and d-line depth. The problem is that in both cases, we have starters who would be good backups.

Rasputin · 08-17-2013, 10:39 AM

Eric Fisher is a pussy for nursing an injury finger. I didn't say finger injury.

jd1020 · 08-17-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Eric Fisher. JFC, guys. I get that he wasn't the guy many of us wanted at 1.1. I didn't either. But calling him a pussy for nursing a finger injury... it's really sad that people are wanting so badly for this guy to be terrible. The truth is, the injury doesn't matter, because he played through it and he played fine. He got beat once on a speed rush, and was beat twice because it was a coverage sack. He played well enough for a preseason rookie against an elite defense, injury or not.

I swear some people easily forget that they were playing the SF backups for damn near the entire time.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Tyler Bray / Stanzi - Stanzi should be the backup and he should have gotten reps last year. Sadly, neither of those will happen and we'll never really know what we had in him. Bray... I took a lot of shit for suggesting the kid should be on the practice squad. I like the potential, but has a very, very long way to go. Looked extremely frazzled when pressured

I can't wait til Stanzi is cut so we can stop listening to the Stanzi nuthuggers talk about him as if he has a future in the NFL. He's been on this team for 3 ****ing years and hasn't progressed one bit. Did you not see him get completely destroyed in the backup battle last year by Brady ****ing Quinn?

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Eric Fisher is a pussy for nursing an injury finger. I didn't say finger injury.

A finger injury for an offensive lineman is like injuring a finger on your throwing hand.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I swear some people easily forget that they were playing the SF backups for damn new the entire time.

I can't wait til Stanzi is cut so we can stop listening to the Stanzi nuthuggers talk about him as if he has a future in the NFL. He's been on this team for 3 ****ing years and hasn't progressed one bit. Did you not see him get completely destroyed in the backup battle last year by Brady ****ing Quinn?

I don't know what we have in Stanzi. I'm not a Stanzi nuthugger. I think he could maybe be a capable backup. I'm more disturbed at how few chances he got. And no, a preseason battle doesn't tell me anything.

There is ZERO reason why Brady Quinn should have played the entire close of the season. I would have liked for Stanzi to fail on that football field in meaningless games, not in these training camp battles.

O.city · 08-17-2013, 12:23 PM

Dl looked really good against sf 1st team ol.

Defense is going to be really good this year, special teams too

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Dl looked really good against sf 1st team ol.

Defense is going to be really good this year, special teams too

What they did was unsexy, but they were really driving their blockers yesterday. Even in the pass rush. Again, the big problem I see right now is: 1) nervous about linebackers and safeties overpursuing; 2) The way the scheme is shaping up, Kendrick Lewis scares me; 3) we're in big trouble if ANY of our corners get hurt

milkman · 08-17-2013, 12:30 PM

On offense I've focussed exclusively on Albert, and has played as poorly as he ever has.

Poe has been the focus on defense, and he hasn't driving his blocker.
He is getting consistently pushed off the blocks.

TEX · 08-17-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know what we have in Stanzi. I'm not a Stanzi nuthugger. I think he could maybe be a capable backup. I'm more disturbed at how few chances he got. And no, a preseason battle doesn't tell me anything.

There is ZERO reason why Brady Quinn should have played the entire close of the season. I would have liked for Stanzi to fail on that football field in meaningless games, not in these training camp battles.

He must also not be showing the coaches much in practice either or he might have gotten more time. He's not any kind of an NFL QB except the type who got a shot and found out he doesn't belong...

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

On offense I've focussed exclusively on Albert, and has played as poorly as he ever has.

Poe has been the focus on defense, and he hasn't driving his blocker.
He is getting consistently pushed off the blocks.

I have to disagree. I don't think Poe looked nearly as good as game 1, but thought he was very good on run defense. That's where I saw him move his blocker quite a bit. Pretty consistently, the 49ers running game had a really good wall in front of them. I'll agree on the pass rush side. A little inconsistent, with Poe usually drawing doubles and in many cases, kind of just playing patty cake.

O.city · 08-17-2013, 01:00 PM

Seems when they blitzed, our wrs didn't pick it up and break routes and smith didn't correctly id the blitz early enough

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Seems when they blitzed, our wrs didn't pick it up and break routes and smith didn't correctly id the blitz early enough

I remember one rollout where smith rolled right and Baldwin was still going way upfield. I remember thinking the corner was giving so much cushion, why did Baldwin keep rrunning downfield?

**Rain Man** · 08-17-2013, 01:34 PM

I like what I've been seeing out of Shaun Draughn. Right now, I think he should be our #2 HB.

On the blitzes, the 49ers were on our QB so fast that it wasn't a route issue in most cases. It was blockers not picking up guys with short routes to the QB.

Jalil Brown is not good enough to cover the 49ers third-stringers. I really hope other CBs step up to take the nickel and dime jobs.

jd1020 · 08-17-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I like what I've been seeing out of Shaun Draughn. Right now, I think he should be our #2 HB.

On the blitzes, the 49ers were on our QB so fast that it wasn't a route issue in most cases. It was blockers not picking up guys with short routes to the QB.

Wasn't Draughn the guy who completely whiffed on a blitzer to cause one of the 7 sacks?

**Rain Man** · 08-17-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Wasn't Draughn the guy who completely whiffed on a blitzer to cause one of the 7 sacks?

Not sure. I didn't get to see a bunch of the first half. But in the regular season that would never happen, because we're the CHIEFS.

(I'm starting to get excited about football season.)

08-17-2013, 10:37 AM
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $2024497	Preseason observations - Week #2 Didn't watch the game as in-depth as I did week 1. Frankly, when the second unit got on the field, I got a little bit bored. OFFENSE I had no problem with Alex Smith in week 1. This game, we saw a LOT more of the Alex Smith many of us were concerned about. Missed too many blitz pickups, held the ball too long when he wanted to go deeper, gave up on the pass too quickly in others. Not a good week for him. Eric Fisher. JFC, guys. I get that he wasn't the guy many of us wanted at 1.1. I didn't either. But calling him a pussy for nursing a finger injury... it's really sad that people are wanting so badly for this guy to be terrible. The truth is, the injury doesn't matter, because he played through it and he played fine. He got beat once on a speed rush, and was beat twice because it was a coverage sack. He played well enough for a preseason rookie against an elite defense, injury or not. If anything, I wasn't impressed at all with the interior blocking today. Jeff Allen, in particular, was mediocre I was wrong about Knile Davis. Excellent game today. However, still a legit question about whether he is a pure space runner. He knows how to attack when there's a good size opening, but still unsure if he's powerful enough to break a wall or nifty enough to juke your way through a narrow hole Cyrus Gray played his way out of a job. He was terrible. Inexcusable drop with the first team, no burst, no agility, and was the only return guy in 2 games to look useless. At least with Draughn, I see some acceleration and power It dithgusts me that Baldwin is getting that many snaps. I don't want to see him in a Chiefs uniform. He is stealing reps from Avery and Hemmingway, who should be competing for that #2 spot with Baldwin nowhere in that picture Chase Daniel - better, but it's going to be a problem if he starts. Horrible blitz recognition. Last week, very frazzled under pressure. This week, ran a checkdown heavy offense Tyler Bray / Stanzi - Stanzi should be the backup and he should have gotten reps last year. Sadly, neither of those will happen and we'll never really know what we had in him. Bray... I took a lot of shit for suggesting the kid should be on the practice squad. I like the potential, but has a very, very long way to go. Looked extremely frazzled when pressured Travis Kelce... man, had high hopes for the kid. Two inexcusable drops already this preseason on limited snaps. DEFENSE Defensive Line was solid. Poe didn't dominate like he did in Game 1, but he was very effective at driving his blocker. Tyson Jackson played a much better game too. On run defense, he was definitely moving his guy and looked like he was getting an upper hand. Good improvement We wanted aggressive, and we're getting it. I'm worried if we're too aggressive. Too many plays where we overpursued. Teams that bootleg, counter, and cutback are going to break some big runs if we don't knock that shit off. We've been playing vanilla offenses. I also fear that this aggressive approach is going to make us suckers for playaction and draws Akeem Jordan has played solid. He hasn't played his way out of a job. But man, Nico Johnson has earned a right to get first team snaps. He was a man amongst boys with the second unit. Allen Bailey needs to get snaps this year. He has to become more consistent, but the potential is there. There were a few drives where his strength is just unreal. Just bulldozes his blocker into the backfield We are getting a small glimpse of how awesome Eric Berry could be this year. He's going to play a lot of positions, from LB to Nickel to SS to FS to FS in a 46. And we saw several instances where he just missiled through a gap. He looks like an entirely different player this year I actually think our D-line played well in the pass rush. As 2-gap, they were occupying blockers and driving the pile more than I'm used to. I think that will really show once we dial up the blitz Sean Smith is definitely taking to the bump-and-run. It's really hard to tell what we have in our other guys. What scares me is that Sutton seems to like playing his safeties in some nickel coverages, and in other cases, play them at pure Centerfield like a 46. I think Lewis is going to be a huge liability this year. He just hasn't been tested. Hard to believe we're saying this, but we have strong safety and d-line depth. The problem is that in both cases, we have starters who would be good backups.
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