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Old 04-14-2016, 05:33 PM  
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Mackenzie Alexander turning scouts off

Raymond Summerlin@RMSummerlin-NFL.com's @BuckyBrooks said CB Mackensie Alexander "turned a lot of people off with his interviews." "Not buying his act."

Terez Paylor also said on his podcast today that he's heard that Alexander did not do well on the blackboard at the combine.


Yeah..not a big fan.
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Old 04-14-2016, 06:21 PM   #2
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:04 PM   #3
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His interviews were poor and teams came away very unimpressed with his personality and attitude.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:20 PM   #4
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Old 04-14-2016, 08:48 PM   #5
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While it does concern me a little, I'm pretty sure guys like Deion and Peters rubbed people the wrong way too. I still think he would excel in this scheme with our guys and the culture that has been created. He just needs to be humbled a little bit and a fall to 28 could do just that.
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Old 04-14-2016, 08:53 PM   #6
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That doesn't sound good.

Although it is smoke blowing time so who knows
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Old 04-14-2016, 08:55 PM   #7
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I will say this however, Jackson has moved to #1 for me.

I'd still take Alexander over Apple though. Last night I saw some really bad "tape" against some very average WR's that really soured me on Apple. I'd rather take Butler than him at that point.

Also, Alexander doesn't need to do well on the "blackboard" in our predominantly press man scheme. It's pretty simple and we've seen two rookies pick it up fast already.
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:29 PM   #8
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His interviews were poor and teams came away very unimpressed with his personality and attitude.
It amazes me that a ton of Chiefs fans I see say he's this years Peters. The hell if he's even half the prospect Peters was.

One of the worst things you can say about a DB nowadays is "he doesn't have proven ball skills". Today's NFL is impossible to simply cover well as a one-trick pony due to the rules. You have to take the ball away.
The guy hasn't shown ball skills. And he's had 2 years of tape.

Hell I think I'd rather have TJ Green at this point bc he's got the speed, length and ability that Alexander simply doesn't have.

Yes Chris Harris Jr. and Tyrann Matheiu are awesome short starting CB's. How many others are there? They rarely work out unless their slot guys.

The potential isn't there for me with this guy. He's overrated as hell.
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:37 PM   #9
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It amazes me that a ton of Chiefs fans I see say he's this years Peters. The hell if he's even half the prospect Peters was.

One of the worst things you can say about a DB nowadays is "he doesn't have proven ball skills". Today's NFL is impossible to simply cover well as a one-trick pony due to the rules. You have to take the ball away.
The guy hasn't shown ball skills. And he's had 2 years of tape.

Hell I think I'd rather have TJ Green at this point bc he's got the speed, length and ability that Alexander simply doesn't have.

Yes Chris Harris Jr. and Tyrann Matheiu are awesome short starting CB's. How many others are there? They rarely work out unless their slot guys.

The potential isn't there for me with this guy. He's overrated as hell.
I can't help but think you're talking about me lol, but every time I've made the comparison, I've clearly said that he's Peters without the elite ball skills. That's a huge difference in ability, so I'm obviously not saying he's in Peters league. He would however be a great #2 across from him.

He is great at sticking to WR's in press man coverage and is competitive as they come. Also, despite what these reports say, he still has an above average football IQ from what I've read/seen. Sounds like he just didn't quite live up to the hype he created about it.

He's less than an inch shorter than Peters with the same arm length and an identical 37.5 inch vertical. Not to mention he plays bigger than he is and is in no way lacking in the physicality department. You're not going to convince me that his size is that big of an issue.

Even Bucky, the guy that reported this, has said all these positives and agrees he should go higher then what he's hearing due to the fall off after that tier. He called Alexander a perfect fit for the Chiefs.

Also, you love to talk about his lack of ball skills, but continue ignore that he allowed 18 receptions all of last year (and 20 in 2014) playing on an island. Shutdown corners do not get oppurtunities for INT's. Ask Sean Smith if you can make a living that way.

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Old 04-15-2016, 08:01 AM   #10
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Creating a lack of or stopping production is the job of the cornerback.
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Old 04-15-2016, 10:13 AM   #11
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Let him slide to us. 2 Td's in 2 years facing the competition he has says something. Would love to see him across from Peters. That being said I would take WJIII over him but I don't see him getting past Pittsburgh.
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Yep. Let him slide on down to #28. He is one of only a handful that would make me as the KC pick at #28.
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Old 04-17-2016, 08:13 PM   #13
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Alexander may just be the single most overrated player in this draft.
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Creating a lack of or stopping production is the job of the cornerback.
When word leaks about poor interviews, it's rare when the player lives up to prior expectations.

It's one thing when a guy doesn't run or lift as expected but has great game film.

It's another thing entirely when he doesn't pass muster during the interview process.
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I can't help but think you're talking about me lol, but every time I've made the comparison, I've clearly said that he's Peters without the elite ball skills. That's a huge difference in ability, so I'm obviously not saying he's in Peters league. He would however be a great #2 across from him.

He is great at sticking to WR's in press man coverage and is competitive as they come. Also, despite what these reports say, he still has an above average football IQ from what I've read/seen. Sounds like he just didn't quite live up to the hype he created about it.

He's less than an inch shorter than Peters with the same arm length and an identical 37.5 inch vertical. Not to mention he plays bigger than he is and is in no way lacking in the physicality department. You're not going to convince me that his size is that big of an issue.

Even Bucky, the guy that reported this, has said all these positives and agrees he should go higher then what he's hearing due to the fall off after that tier. He called Alexander a perfect fit for the Chiefs.

Also, you love to talk about his lack of ball skills, but continue ignore that he allowed 18 receptions all of last year (and 20 in 2014) playing on an island. Shutdown corners do not get oppurtunities for INT's. Ask Sean Smith if you can make a living that way.
It's extremely difficult for me to see Alexander drafted by us at 28. Dorsey has shown a penchant for drafting guys with very good ball skills/measurables at CB. Yes he took a dip on that with Nelson, but hat was round 3.

Peters was a playmaker at Washington. Everyone knew that. He was strong (19 bench reps) for press man and had essentially everything else you want (barely below 6 ft but still close enough.
Gaines had a record amount of passes defended and always had his hands on the ball in some way. Add the height/length/speed dynamic and it was obvious.
Nelson was probably drafted on the Senior bowl performance alone, but he had solid production with 16 passes defended and 8 INT's in 2 years along with 19 bench reps to show good strength for press man like Peters.

I just don't see it with Alexander. Does this seem like a first rd pick in our system?
-short
-average speed (4.47 40)
-bad interviews at the combine
-average strength (11 bench reps)

There's too many cons here for me to feel comfortable. If Dorsey takes this guy I'll be shocked.
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