Chiefs Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD

RunKC · 12-01-2016, 11:40 AM

So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play.
Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details:

1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball.
Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this:

2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby.

I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way.

3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped.
Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD.

The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce.

It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.

**The Franchise** · 12-01-2016, 11:49 AM

I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-01-2016, 11:49 AM

Interesting. Thanks for posting. Maybe this is our year - between this improbable pass and the doink, these are usually breaks that go against us.

BoneKrusher · 12-01-2016, 11:51 AM

Thanks for posting man.

suzzer99 · 12-01-2016, 11:52 AM

Ugh - that wide open Kelce is frustrating to look at.

I'm not so sure about the tip helping. The tip seems to divert the ball to the left in the picture, and slow it down so it floats more. If the tip doesn't happen I think Hill has to keep moving full speed to the right to get to the ball, instead of having to stop in his tracks, which leaves him out of interfering range. Of course knowing Alex he may have led Hill too much or thrown the ball into the ground.

**Bowser** · 12-01-2016, 11:53 AM

Kelce was wide the hell open. Damn.

That's a great breakdown of the catch. So many things had to happen just so for us to get the score there. I doubt we will see a play like that again for a long time.

But ultimately, man, what concentration by Hill, especially considering the situation and what was on the line. His play before that to get the first down on fourth and ten was ****ing nails, as well. This kid might just be legit.

**Bowser** · 12-01-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.

Yep. We essentially lost the Tampa Bay game on a one read play.

suzzer99 · 12-01-2016, 11:56 AM

It's pretty incredibly how much production they do get out of Alex considering he can't seem to handle more than one read or be accurate w/o locking onto a receiver for a second or two. They treat him like a rookie.

O.city · 12-01-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

It's pretty incredibly how much production they do get out of Alex considering he can't seem to handle more than one read or be accurate w/o locking onto a receiver for a second or two. They treat him like a rookie.

I actually think that's why they only get what they get out of him.

Let the dude play freely

BWillie · 12-01-2016, 11:57 AM

Ha wow. If it wasn't tipped it would have been too far in front of Hill and he wouldn't have even caught it. But Alex Smiff is so good!

Rasputin · 12-01-2016, 12:07 PM

It's like he punched the Broncos in the stomach with his kick return and then choked them out with the tying touchdown catch.

Rasputin · 12-01-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Ha wow. If it wasn't tipped it would have been too far in front of Hill and he wouldn't have even caught it. But Alex Smiff is so good!

You should give credit to Alex he knew in order for Hill to make that catch he had to let it get tipped in the first place to get the exact projectory needed, that's Alex Smith brilliance. That was a forced tip by Alex Smith he used the Denver player as a pawn.

**Lzen** · 12-01-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Ha wow. If it wasn't tipped it would have been too far in front of Hill and he wouldn't have even caught it. But Alex Smiff is so good!

I don't think you can say that for certain.

O.city · 12-01-2016, 12:12 PM

Thankfully he caught it

**Lzen** · 12-01-2016, 12:12 PM

I did notice Kelce being wide open on that play when I watched the replay for the first time the other day. The only thing that could have possibly screwed it up if he had gone to Kelce is the blitzing defender could have possibly tipped or knocked down the pass. Doubtful but who knows as Alex was locked on to Hill the entire way.

12-01-2016, 11:40 AM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2249611	Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play. Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details: 1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball. Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this: 2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby. I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way. 3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped. Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD. The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce. It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.
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12-01-2016, 11:49 AM	#2
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12-01-2016, 11:52 AM	#5
suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $2964284	Ugh - that wide open Kelce is frustrating to look at. I'm not so sure about the tip helping. The tip seems to divert the ball to the left in the picture, and slow it down so it floats more. If the tip doesn't happen I think Hill has to keep moving full speed to the right to get to the ball, instead of having to stop in his tracks, which leaves him out of interfering range. Of course knowing Alex he may have led Hill too much or thrown the ball into the ground.
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12-01-2016, 11:53 AM	#6
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3441616	Kelce was wide the hell open. Damn. That's a great breakdown of the catch. So many things had to happen just so for us to get the score there. I doubt we will see a play like that again for a long time. But ultimately, man, what concentration by Hill, especially considering the situation and what was on the line. His play before that to get the first down on fourth and ten was ****ing nails, as well. This kid might just be legit.
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12-01-2016, 11:56 AM	#8
suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $2964284	It's pretty incredibly how much production they do get out of Alex considering he can't seem to handle more than one read or be accurate w/o locking onto a receiver for a second or two. They treat him like a rookie.
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12-01-2016, 11:57 AM	#10
BWillie Future NBA Finals MVP Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Earth Casino cash: $2431241	Ha wow. If it wasn't tipped it would have been too far in front of Hill and he wouldn't have even caught it. But Alex Smiff is so good! __________________ Who wants free money? Use the link below to sign up at Bovada, BetOnline, Black Chip Poker and Ignition. Contact me for private deals, spot bonuses, possible rakeback or any questions! Bovada, Ignition, BetOnline, Black Chip Poker: baldeaglepoker.com Bovada Poker is back! Get up to $500 poker deposit bonus.
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3475421	It's like he punched the Broncos in the stomach with his kick return and then choked them out with the tying touchdown catch.
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12-01-2016, 12:12 PM	#15
Lzen Supporter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Jan Quadrant Vincent 16 Casino cash: $2220692	I did notice Kelce being wide open on that play when I watched the replay for the first time the other day. The only thing that could have possibly screwed it up if he had gone to Kelce is the blitzing defender could have possibly tipped or knocked down the pass. Doubtful but who knows as Alex was locked on to Hill the entire way. __________________ If at first you don't succeed ...skydiving is not for you.
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