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Old 02-04-2019, 12:44 PM  
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Defense doesn't win championships. Hard-ass coaches do.
We were one Dee Ford "Was I?" away from the Big Dance and I agree that we would have beaten the Rams last night.

One thing for sure. Throughout the entire playoffs, Belichick had his team damn ready. Brady in a post game interview said something like: "Its a competitive environment, and coach...he makes it tough, but you have to be ready for whatever comes at you"

Kind of like the old statement that the way boot camp in the army was designed to be so hard that war was (metaphorically) easy.

They punched Chargers in the mouth and got 35 points on them by the half.

They punched us in the mouth, kept the ball from us and blanked us for a half. Every guy on the offense had to fight for every yard off the line at the snap.

They did the same to the Rams. Rams just didn't have it in them to get 31 points.

Sutton was a "nice guy." Reid is a nice guy. Not saying he has to go full Chucky, but these coaches could take a clue from Belichick the Sith Hoodie.

The whole "we are an underdog" attitude before the AFCCG was designed to motivate them mentally to do what they did they night. We need that now, to win next year.

A friend of mine, talking about our game said, "I think in their mind the Chiefs had already won their Super Bowl. They embarrassed the Colts, AFCCG was at Arrowhead for the first time, They were on par with Bill/Brady. They were happy instead of hungry and mad."

Think about that.

The royals 90 feet from Victory helped motivate them to the WS trophy the next year. Chiefs need the same.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:52 PM   #2
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Well....let’s see.....if you throw out having to have won at least one SB as part of the criteria, you could argue that Belichik(a known prick who would cut his grandson)and Reid(a jovial, everybody loves him type)are the two most successful coaches over the last two decades. One has 6 rings and 9 appearances and the other has one appearance and lots of friends. So, um, yeah I would agree with the OP.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:54 PM   #3
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Keeping the same shit players for years doesn't win either. We do that way too much and we pay way too much. Dump the big three and cut your losses.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:01 PM   #4
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The Chiefs would of beat the Rams and the Saints would of beaten the Pats, so the wrong teams played last night. I think a Chiefs/Saints Super Bowl would of been a hell of a lot more fun to watch.

Brady threw only one pass his rookie year and won the Super Bowl his second year after he filled in for an injured Bledsoe. They beat the Rams in the Super Bowl on a last second field goal. Mahomes played a full game his rookie year and replaced a veteran his second year and won the AFC West and was one play from winning the AFC Championship and going to the Super Bowl. I would say fans of most any other NFL team would be glad to be in the Chiefs position right now.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:10 PM   #5
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I think you're confusing dumb ass fans who thought a super bowl appearance was guaranteed with the actual coaching staff and players, who I'm sure busted their asses in preparation for the game against the Pats.

The concept that being a hard ass is somehow better is inherently ridiculous. Anyone can be a hard ass, it's just being an asshole. Not everyone can be a genius, which is what Belichick is.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:15 PM   #6
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Well....let’s see.....if you throw out having to have won at least one SB as part of the criteria, you could argue that Belichik(a known prick who would cut his grandson)and Reid(a jovial, everybody loves him type)are the two most successful coaches over the last two decades. One has 6 rings and 9 appearances and the other has one appearance and lots of friends. So, um, yeah I would agree with the OP.
One had a HOF/MVP franchise QB for the last 17 years, one had Donovan McNabb and Alex Smith filtered with some others...

Reid will be just fine, if you learned anything from last night, it's that we adjusted on our 3rd drive and scored 31 points on the Pats. The Rams punted 8 consecutive drives with the longest drive being 5 plays and 23 yards.
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One had a HOF/MVP franchise QB for the last 17 years, one had Donovan McNabb and Alex Smith filtered with some others...

Reid will be just fine, if you learned anything from last night, it's that we adjusted on our 3rd drive and scored 31 points on the Pats. The Rams punted 8 consecutive drives with the longest drive being 5 plays and 23 yards.
Sure, but what’s that old Parcells line?

“You are what your record says you are”
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:24 PM   #8
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How many Championships and SBs did Belichick win before he teamed up with Brady?

Oh, NONE!

In fact he was fired from Cleveland for his losing record.
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Nobody is arguing Brady’s greatness. If you guys don’t think Belichick is a genius of a coach, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:29 PM   #10
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Sorry. Its more complicated then that. Otherwise why didn't Marty win it all, or Gunther?
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How many Championships and SBs did Belichick win before he teamed up with Brady?

Oh, NONE!

In fact he was fired from Cleveland for his losing record.
He won with the Giants.

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The Chiefs would of beat the Rams and the Saints would of beaten the Pats, so the wrong teams played last night. I think a Chiefs/Saints Super Bowl would of been a hell of a lot more fun to watch.

Brady threw only one pass his rookie year and won the Super Bowl his second year after he filled in for an injured Bledsoe. They beat the Rams in the Super Bowl on a last second field goal. Mahomes played a full game his rookie year and replaced a veteran his second year and won the AFC West and was one play from winning the AFC Championship and going to the Super Bowl. I would say fans of most any other NFL team would be glad to be in the Chiefs position right now.
Saints would have faired about as well as the Rams. Brees' arm was shit after about week 10. He took a hit and something was off since then. He would have been without the deep ball and much outside the numbers beyond 15 yards. Saints also wouldn't have created the amount of pressure that Fowler, Suh, and Donald created.

It sucks, but the Pats defense was incredible in the postseason.
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Nobody is arguing Brady’s greatness. If you guys don’t think Belichick is a genius of a coach, I don’t know what to tell you.
Who said BB wasn't a genious?

Just citing his actual record with other QBs/teams.
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Who said BB wasn't a genious?

Just citing his actual record with other QBs/teams.
Your original post certainly could not be taken as anything other than a slight at Belichick. Which is odd since I know you’re a Pats fan.
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He won with the Giants.
He was NOT the head coach tho'. He was a defensive assistant and special teams coach.

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It sucks, but the Pats defense was incredible in the postseason.
Doesn't suck for me. However, I wouldn't say the Ram's defense sucked either. Just the Pat's D was better.
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Your original post certainly could not be taken as anything other than a slight at Belichick. Which is odd since I know you’re a Pats fan.
I simply asked about his actual record as a matter of fact. And it's nothing compared to his teaming up with Brady. He has been a genius with the Patriots.
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