Chiefs Mahomes 4th quarter playoff performances vs former Chief QBs

jerryaldini · 08:12 PM

Many of us remember what it was like to have to count on DeBerg/Kreig/Bono/Grbac/Cassell in the playoffs in the fourth quarter. That group of QBs put up a total of 10 points in seven playoff fourth quarters. That’s obviously a horror show, even without the context of what we just witnessed with Mahomes.

When Pat threw the second pick, I looked at the time and realized that we could get three more possessions if the D could prevent any long drives. I was amazed at how confident I felt that Pat would overcome the deficit even if the D gave up another score, and posted in the GT that we'd get 21 (board was understandably melting down, maybe exaggerated a little).

So after putting up 21 points in a little over seven minutes to close the game, I thought it would be interesting to compare Mahomes to former Chiefs’ QBs in playoff game fourth quarters to see if my reversal in confidence was well founded.

In 5 playoff games, Pat has averaged 15.2 points in the 4th quarter, and has yet to be outscored, with a 76-27 (this year 45-7) advantage overall. As Clark Griswold would say, that's nearly 3-to-1 to you and me Russ.

Pre-Mahomes, in 20 games Chief offenses scored 94 total points for a 4.7 average. Not terrible (3.8 ex-Montana, who averaged 8.8). So Pat also has a 3-to-1 advantage over the former Chiefs. Overall in 20 games the former Chiefs were outscored 138-94 in the fourth. At their worst, in six of the seven games from 1993 to 2006 they were shutout, and outscored 31-7 overall.

As a bonus notice the D this year gave up 0,7, and 0 in the three games, while former Chiefs defenses were giving up 7 per game on average! So the ratio of defensive improvement matches the offense.

Here are the results and QBs by year with fourth quarter scores, Chiefs-opponents. How great is it to have THAT GUY, like the GOAT Montana in his prime, where you just know he will, as Pat says, "do something special" in the clutch moments?! I’m just hoping Caracosa gives this thread an…okay!

Year Chiefs-Opp
1971 7-7 Dolphins Dawson Greise
1986 9-7 Jets Kenney/Blackledge Pat Ryan
1990 0-14 Dolphins DeBerg Marino.
1991 3-0 Raiders Deberg Marinovich
1991 7-13 Bills DeBerg/Vlasic Kelly
1992. 0-7 Chargers Kreig Humphries
1993 14-7 Steelers Montana O'Donnell
1993 21-10 Oilers Montana Moon
1993 0-10 Bills Montana/Kreig Kelly
1994 0-0 Dolphins Montana Marino
1995 0-0 Colts Bono/Gannon Harbaugh
1997 0-7 Broncos Grbac Elway
2003 7-7 Colts Green Manning
2006 0-7 Colts Green Manning
2010 0-7 Ravens Cassel Flacco
2013 3-14 Colts Smith Luck
2015 10-0 Texans Smith Hoyer
2015 7-6 Pats Smith Brady
2016 6-3 Steelers Smith Rapesberger
2017 0-12 Titans Smith Mariota
2018 7-6 Colts Mahomes Luck
2018 24-14 Pats Mahomes Brady
2019 10-0 Texans Mahomes Watson
2019 14-7 Titans Mahomes Tannehill
2019 21-0 Niners Mahomes Garropolo

Red Dawg · 02-05-2020, 07:51 PM

Good grief. That's sad.

jerryaldini · 02-05-2020, 07:58 PM

Oh, and waited 50 years to see this in print! Football-reference

suzzer99 · 02-05-2020, 08:11 PM

Change 2017 to Titans

jerryaldini · 02-05-2020, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Change 2017 to Titans

Woops gotcha, thanks!

Reerun_KC · 02-05-2020, 09:35 PM

The chiefs recycled dogs shit QBs never had a chance. Ever.

Alex Smith was the cherry on top of the dog shit sundae.

scho63 · 02-06-2020, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

The chiefs recycled dogs shit QBs never had a chance. Ever.

Alex Smith was the cherry on top of the dog shit sundae.

Sad but true....

02-05-2020, 07:50 PM
jerryaldini MVP Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $2630400	Mahomes 4th quarter playoff performances vs former Chief QBs Many of us remember what it was like to have to count on DeBerg/Kreig/Bono/Grbac/Cassell in the playoffs in the fourth quarter. That group of QBs put up a total of 10 points in seven playoff fourth quarters. That’s obviously a horror show, even without the context of what we just witnessed with Mahomes. When Pat threw the second pick, I looked at the time and realized that we could get three more possessions if the D could prevent any long drives. I was amazed at how confident I felt that Pat would overcome the deficit even if the D gave up another score, and posted in the GT that we'd get 21 (board was understandably melting down, maybe exaggerated a little). So after putting up 21 points in a little over seven minutes to close the game, I thought it would be interesting to compare Mahomes to former Chiefs’ QBs in playoff game fourth quarters to see if my reversal in confidence was well founded. In 5 playoff games, Pat has averaged 15.2 points in the 4th quarter, and has yet to be outscored, with a 76-27 (this year 45-7) advantage overall. As Clark Griswold would say, that's nearly 3-to-1 to you and me Russ. Pre-Mahomes, in 20 games Chief offenses scored 94 total points for a 4.7 average. Not terrible (3.8 ex-Montana, who averaged 8.8). So Pat also has a 3-to-1 advantage over the former Chiefs. Overall in 20 games the former Chiefs were outscored 138-94 in the fourth. At their worst, in six of the seven games from 1993 to 2006 they were shutout, and outscored 31-7 overall. As a bonus notice the D this year gave up 0,7, and 0 in the three games, while former Chiefs defenses were giving up 7 per game on average! So the ratio of defensive improvement matches the offense. Here are the results and QBs by year with fourth quarter scores, Chiefs-opponents. How great is it to have THAT GUY, like the GOAT Montana in his prime, where you just know he will, as Pat says, "do something special" in the clutch moments?! I’m just hoping Caracosa gives this thread an…okay! Year Chiefs-Opp 1971 7-7 Dolphins Dawson Greise 1986 9-7 Jets Kenney/Blackledge Pat Ryan 1990 0-14 Dolphins DeBerg Marino. 1991 3-0 Raiders Deberg Marinovich 1991 7-13 Bills DeBerg/Vlasic Kelly 1992. 0-7 Chargers Kreig Humphries 1993 14-7 Steelers Montana O'Donnell 1993 21-10 Oilers Montana Moon 1993 0-10 Bills Montana/Kreig Kelly 1994 0-0 Dolphins Montana Marino 1995 0-0 Colts Bono/Gannon Harbaugh 1997 0-7 Broncos Grbac Elway 2003 7-7 Colts Green Manning 2006 0-7 Colts Green Manning 2010 0-7 Ravens Cassel Flacco 2013 3-14 Colts Smith Luck 2015 10-0 Texans Smith Hoyer 2015 7-6 Pats Smith Brady 2016 6-3 Steelers Smith Rapesberger 2017 0-12 Titans Smith Mariota 2018 7-6 Colts Mahomes Luck 2018 24-14 Pats Mahomes Brady 2019 10-0 Texans Mahomes Watson 2019 14-7 Titans Mahomes Tannehill 2019 21-0 Niners Mahomes Garropolo Last edited by jerryaldini; 02-05-2020 at 08:12 PM.. Reason: edit
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