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Old 12-07-2020, 08:07 AM  
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Red Zone Problems
The announcers were talking about it last night how they hadn't scored a TD in the last 7 drives or however many it is now. I realize short yardage has always been a problem this year but it seems like Andy has been trying to get too cute. I Know they have taken out the QB sneak out of the playbook but that doesn't excuse reverse pitch jet sweeps and TE option passes being the go-to plays on 3rd and goal at the 1. Whatever happened to heavy formations with a couple extra OL as tight ends and the Sherminator in at fullback? I don't believe that the talent is so back on the OL that they can't devise a blocking scheme to get 1 yard. I hope this is Andy just ****ing around putting things on tape against a lesser opponent for others to think about but I wonder.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:12 AM   #2
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Reid gets cute because he knows our limitations. This OL is not great at run blocking in short yardage/goal-to-go situations.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:16 AM   #3
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The interior ol sucks

We’re playing with 4 backup level OL right now. It is what it is
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:29 AM   #4
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Reid gets cute because he knows our limitations. This OL is not great at run blocking in short yardage/goal-to-go situations.
I got the feeling last night he was ‘experimenting’ for the future.

He knew he could get away with it , because Denver.....
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:36 AM   #5
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Interior OLine is an issue, as it was throughout the season last year. Time to get Wylie out of there and get Wiz back in
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:38 AM   #6
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Very concerning.

We have an o-line and running backs who cannot get 3 yards against a stacked box.

Ergo, Wally has to try and attack the edges.

The question at hand is this: Can Mahomes throw a short fade to the corner? Or not?

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Old 12-07-2020, 08:39 AM   #7
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Let Darrel Williams run those short yardage plays
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:39 AM   #8
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Denver was the 5th-ranked defense overall and the 3rd-ranked red zone defense in the NFL going into last night.

After last night, I'm guessing they'll be the #1 red zone defense in the league now.

So they're REALLY good.

Combine that with our IOL problems and it's pretty easy to see what happened last night.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:39 AM   #9
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Very concerning.

We have an o-line and running backs who cannot get 3 yards against a stacked box.

Ergo, Wally has to try and attack the edges.

The question at hand is this: Can Mahomes throw a short fade to the corner? Or not?

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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:43 AM   #10
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Denver was the 5th-ranked defense overall and the 3rd-ranked red zone defense in the NFL going into last night.

After last night, I'm guessing they'll be the #1 red zone defense in the league now.

So they're REALLY good.

Combine that with our IOL problems and it's pretty easy to see what happened last night.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:45 AM   #11
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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
Allow me to do you the honor of disagreeing with your opinion, Mr. htismaqe.

We are trying every play in the book to avoid running between the tackles in the redzone.

We are even trying plays that aren't in any book ... All in an effort to compensate for our inability to run against a goal-line defense.

Short fades can draw DPI penalties. It's a proven fact. (See; Faiders.)

I, for one, would be willing to consider a short fade against a rookie corner than the QB-in-motion-double-reverse-underhand-pass-to-the-Z-receiver which had never scored a touchdown in the history of the world.

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Old 12-07-2020, 08:55 AM   #12
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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
I totally agree. If you're half a yard from scoring, throwing a moonball up to a covered receiver just seems like the 40th best idea. On our drive, once Bell got a foot from scoring on 1st down, we should have either pounded it again or faked the run and passed it. We got too cute.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:56 AM   #13
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Denver was the 5th-ranked defense overall and the 3rd-ranked red zone defense in the NFL going into last night.

After last night, I'm guessing they'll be the #1 red zone defense in the league now.

So they're REALLY good.

Combine that with our IOL problems and it's pretty easy to see what happened last night.
Yeah, and the fact is that shit happens... sometimes the offense looks magically automatic from anywhere on the field and sometimes it's going to sputter for a game or two.

And that's not to dismiss the issue.... they're obviously trying new things and trying to figure it out, even if they did get too fancy for my taste a time or two.

It's currently a little before 8am MST on December 7th, 2020, and Patrick ****ing Mahomes is still the quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs.

I'm not worried.
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Let Darrel Williams run those short yardage plays
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