Give me your best salary negotiation advice

[TLO]

I have a job interview tomorrow for a position that is very intriguing to me. The company is aware of what my salary expectations are, but the recruiter that I spoke with said that my salary expectations were on the higher range of what they generally offer for this position.

When would salary be discussed? Is it good to talk about at the end of the interview, or wait for them to make an offer?

I've been with the same employer for about 8 years so I'm a little behind the game. Any help would be appreciated.

[saphojunkie]

Sit out of training camp

[saphojunkie]

I have a weird job, but things that I have implemented:

1. know your walk-away number and don't go below it.
2. ask for more than your worth. Don't demand it, but if you don't ask they won't give it. You'd be surprised what changes.
3. You can get creative. It isn't just salary. It's also vacation, benefits, etc.
4. Money, title, project. You need to be happy with 2 out of 3. 1 will never cut it.

[Dunerdr]

Put your dick on the table. Let them see what they pay for.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by TLO

I have a job interview tomorrow for a position that is very intriguing to me. The company is aware of what my salary expectations are, but the recruiter that I spoke with said that my salary expectations were on the higher range of what they generally offer for this position.

When would salary be discussed? Is it good to talk about at the end of the interview, or wait for them to make an offer?

I've been with the same employer for about 8 years so I'm a little behind the game. Any help would be appreciated.

Use the words "or else"

[digger]

Best of Luck, know your worth...

[smithandrew051]

Show your dick immediately.

[Womble]

Get a marker pen and write the salary you want on your penis. When they phone you back after your interview that will be the salary they offer you. Turns out that you subconsciously take in information well whilst being dickslapped.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

1. know your walk-away number and don't go below it.
2. ask for more than your worth. Don't demand it, but if you don't ask they won't give it. You'd be surprised what changes.

These for sure. When you ask for something, they'll come back with a low ball. If you initially request higher, their low ball will likely be higher as well.


But know what you want. When you're getting into a new job is the absolute best and easiest time to get a pay bump. It's much more difficult if you'll try to rely on raises later after you already have the job. Those will probably only be cost of living level bumps.

[Monticore]

Start blowing dudes

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Start blowing dudes

like a boss

[ptlyon]

Salary negotiation should only be done after the job is offered, not in a qualifying interview.

If salary comes up, be honest, and explain why you feel you deserve that salary. But also note that may be the salary you'll be stuck with for some time.

Only then you may lay your dick on the table.

[ThrobProng]

Find dirt on the would-be boss, blackmail the shit out of him.

[DJ's left nut]

When I'm on the 'other side' of the conversation, I'll often offer a 'moving stipend' or a sign-on bonus as a trade-off for some of the difference in salary expectations.

The reason being that it lowers my baseline going forward. If I have to pay someone $100K in salary and they come in looking for a 5% raise the next year, I'll pay them $205K over the course of 2 years.

If I give them a $90K salary with a $10K moving stipend and the next year they come in seeking that same 5% raise, I'm paying $194,500 over those same 2 years. And it only compounds from there.

If you're okay with that, so be it. But be watchful of it. It works 9 times out of 10. People just don't tend to think very long-term. And if I'm hiring a relatively experienced and valuable person, I'm hoping to get 3-5 years at least out of them. Over the course of that 5 years, I could save myself $50+K when it's all said and done.

And they'll never feel hard-done by for it. Because that's just not how people's minds work. 20 weeks after they cashed that signing bonus check, all they really remember is the weekly take home and from that figure, a raise is a raise.

[ptlyon]

You must also compare benefits between the two. Health care, 401k, any bonuses that may come along the way, or missing if you took this job over what you currently have.