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Old 11-02-2000, 11:03 PM  
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I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell.

On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already.

Thoughts on this:

1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week.

3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me.

4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago.

5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway!

I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:06 PM   #2
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I don't post on political threads because it forces me back to reality and the Chiefs are what I use to escape. However, all this crap is why good guys don't run for office. Who in their right mind would want people digging up 24 year old mistakes...

Totally disappointed by our choices.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:11 PM   #3
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I here you, AZ. I personally wanted McCain, but I'll take Bush over Gore any day.

I sure wouldn't want these vultures digging up the skeletons in my closet.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:15 PM   #4
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Weren't you one of the Republican minority in '92 whining about Clinton's past mistakes?? Maybe I am mistaken here, but judging by your political leanings, my guess would be yes. If you want to let Bush off the hook for endangering people's lives, why hold Clinton accountable for mistakes that affect only himself and his only family??

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Old 11-02-2000, 11:16 PM   #5
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I seem to remember the other canidate and his wife admitting to smocking a little illegal weed, I guess we will not hear about that during these last few days.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:21 PM   #6
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But they didn't inhale....
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:26 PM   #7
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Revolver, this is the equivalent of the crap about Clinton not inhaling the joint. Now we all know he inhaled. My problem with it then was why he lied about it. He was a kid at the time, and regardless of what I think about Clinton now I doubt seriously that he's doing bong hits in the Oval Office.

While Bush was not forthcoming with this, when this news broke he acted like a man and dealth with it.

My major problem with Clinton is that he is a habitual liar, has lied under oath WHILE IN OFFICE, and has reduced the office of President to nothing more than late night cannon fodder for Leno and Letterman. Can you even hear the man's voice and NOT think he's lying? These things he did as a MATURE ADULT.

And God only knows what other "youthful indiscretions" were performed by both Clinton and Gore. Do you really think ANY of these guys are saints? Perhaps Clinton and Gore are just better at covering their tracks.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:34 PM   #8
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Revolver, Gore smoked pot in his college days and thats a known fact. And I am sure he never went out on the road after a drag or two did he. Please driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol, its all dangerous. And yes I cant beleive the desperation tactics under way at Gore HQ. I mean come on man do they think were that stupid..
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:37 PM   #9
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There is hipocrosy on all sides in politics. That is why I don't align myself with any political party. This accusation is nothing serious and I don't anticipate it will hurt anyone. However it is to be expected. Both sides engage in hipocrosy. I remember 8 years ago the battlecry against Clinton was he was a pot smoking draft dodger, and now we've got an AWOL drunk driver. Won't make a bit of difference in the vote...
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:53 PM   #10
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I dont recall George W. lying about it, nor lying under oath about it.

The term oxymoron continues to apply more ways than one for the democratic party.
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Old 11-02-2000, 11:59 PM   #11
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This didn't quite fly as anticipated, so the other "scandals" that are in the can may not be released.

It's a desperation move that the dems had hoped they wouldn't have to use.

Now they played the card, and have only the mainstream talking heads talking about it, while mainstream America shrugs it off.

Looks like they will move on to plan X. (With only Y & Z left)
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Old 11-03-2000, 12:04 AM   #12
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IMHO, Bush is a hypocrit for the simple reason that he and the Repubs have made morality a focal point of his campaign. He should have come clean before they beat the morality thing into the groumd. I doubt that this will sway anyone. Most here have made up their minds and depanding on who they're for is how they'll view this issue. BTW, if George W had this on Gore, he would have done the SAME thing. IMHO, those who think otherwise are foolish. Bush is full of it, I breath his CRAP every day here in Houston and I LAUGH at how "SMALL" our state government is. It's so small that it's MUCH LARGER than it was 4 years ago! Anyone that doubts this can look up the information for themselves, but I'm sure that Bush has his reasons for not being "honest" here. *grin*
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Old 11-03-2000, 12:05 AM   #13
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Plan X? This is so lame it's more like Plan 9 from Outer Space.

I think (and certainly hope) that this will backfire badly. As the campaign has worn on, GW has impressed me as being very resilient. I think he handled this latest blast just fine.

Of course, we'll see what the papers do with this tomorrow.
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Old 11-03-2000, 12:12 AM   #14
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I refered to it as "Plan X" as the dems are almost out of options. They do have a couple of things left for these desperate times when they are trailing. (Including a 30-minute infomercial on algore to run on Monday)

The "papers" will run it above the fold. However, it has already backfired, rallying a base that is energized and pissing off people who grew tired of this during Clinton's term(s).

Indeed Bush handled it well tonight, and once he came out and did that, it sealed the fate of this scam.

[This message has been edited by Michael Michigan (edited 11-03-2000).]
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Old 11-03-2000, 12:16 AM   #15
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Michael, the "Plan 9" reference was a slam on them, not you - hope you didn't take it the wrong way.

Up here in Chicago, both of the major newspapers, the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times, have endorsed Bush. I'm still shocked by this, especially in this liberal democrat dead-beat hellhole. It will be interesting to see how they deal with this story after declaring him to be their guy.
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