Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

My wild guess is it's been the mental pressure and exhaustion, and that he's probably put a ton of the former on himself going into the season... hopefully with a couple of wins, even against the dumpster fire NYG and Rodgersless Packers, can help with calming the **** down and playing his game.

Mental pressure and exhaustion from playing a game for a living and getting paid well to do it. That's a bunch of bullshit.

Defensive coordinators have figured him out and he needs to adjust. Plain and simple.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Mental pressure and exhaustion from playing a game for a living and getting paid well to do it. That's a bunch of bullshit.

Defensive coordinators have figured him out and he needs to adjust. Plain and simple.

Yay, this again.

Don't know what to tell ya... you're either trolling or have no concept of what it means to be passionate about something (much less passionate about being the greatest ever at that thing), even if that thing isn't open heart surgery.

I wouldn't watch sports if I didn't think at least some of the players gave a shit beyond a paycheck.... and just a wild guess, the guy running for 500 yards in the Super Bowl even after his team is down several scores is the one who gives a shit.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yay, this again.

Don't know what to tell ya... you're either trolling or have no concept of what it means to be passionate about something (much less passionate about being the greatest ever at that thing), even if that thing isn't open heart surgery.

I wouldn't watch sports if I didn't think at least some of the players gave a shit beyond a paycheck.... and just a wild guess, the guy running for 500 yards in the Super Bowl even after his team is down several scores is the one who gives a shit.

One thing I wonder with Mahomes is his bad performances could be compounding on him mentally. Think about it, from HS, college, and even his first three years no one has been able to slow him down. Sure he has been on teams with horrible defenses before, but he has always just balled out. Now he's had a couple of bad games and perhaps it's weighing on him and causing him to force things more.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I don't think the things that are wrong are injury or distraction [at least off-field distraction].

In a balance as delicate as this, the mere passing consideration of thinking about what you DON'T want to do can alter what you DO want to do.

That little bit of his mind thinking [stay in the pocket, don't drop too deep, this guy sucks, this guy has drops, don't lead this guy too much, lead that guy a little more] instead of acting can be just enough, particularly if it snowballs.

Originally Posted by tredadda

One thing I wonder with Mahomes is his bad performances could be compounding on him mentally. Think about it, from HS, college, and even his first three years no one has been able to slow him down. Sure he has been on teams with horrible defenses before, but he has always just balled out. Now he's had a couple of bad games and perhaps it's weighing on him and causing him to force things more.

I think this is related, but tangential, to my point. I don't think he's off so much because of 'weight' of not succeeding, so much as his attentiveness to advice to correct his errors is interfering with his natural rhythm. Might label it backseat driver syndrome. The advice might be useful in itself, but the processing of advice interferes with normal processing.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think this is related, but tangential, to my point. I don't think he's off so much because of 'weight' of not succeeding, so much as his attentiveness to advice to correct his errors is interfering with his natural rhythm. Might label it backseat driver syndrome. The advice might be useful in itself, but the processing of advice interferes with normal processing.

Yeah, to the point of your first post... a difference in "being in the zone" and getting out of your head about it.

I played a season of dodge ball a few years ago and totally get it.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, to the point of your first post... a difference in "being in the zone" and getting out of your head about it.

I played a season of dodge ball a few years ago and totally get it.

Please don't try to make Patrick dodge a wrench. . .

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[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by tredadda

One thing I wonder with Mahomes is his bad performances could be compounding on him mentally. Think about it, from HS, college, and even his first three years no one has been able to slow him down. Sure he has been on teams with horrible defenses before, but he has always just balled out. Now he's had a couple of bad games and perhaps it's weighing on him and causing him to force things more.

Yeah, I'm probably repeating myself to you from previous conversations, but I can 100% see someone as passionate as him going into the season on a mission after that SB loss.

I mean, Kelce literally said during the playoffs last year that all they were looking forward to all offseason after the SB win was to get back to that stage, and that every week of the season, he just wanted to get back to the SB... and that was one fan narrative during all the close games, was they were more or less going through the motion in several games.

So, you get your ass kicked in the Super Bowl and maybe the regular season means a lot more the following season (or just a lot)? Then after a comeback win, shit happens... and keeps happening..... and keeps happening.

And you go through the basic phases of putting more pressure on yourself, forcing things, okay going back to basics.... and bad shit keeps happening.

And it's just as much of a guess as other narratives, but seems that way in his body language and in the frustrations of him and Kelce in particular.... they're definitely not relaxed and having fun.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yay, this again.

Don't know what to tell ya... you're either trolling or have no concept of what it means to be passionate about something (much less passionate about being the greatest ever at that thing), even if that thing isn't open heart surgery.

I wouldn't watch sports if I didn't think at least some of the players gave a shit beyond a paycheck.... and just a wild guess, the guy running for 500 yards in the Super Bowl even after his team is down several scores is the one who gives a shit.

Nothing like internet guy who has never done anything with the amount of public scrutiny or time/energy needed as a pro athlete, saying that feeling exhaustion or pressure is BS because it's "a game" and they get paid well for it.

And yet that same internet guy will blow up said player's Twitter telling them how much they suck if they have a bad day, or vilify them for doing anything other than working out or watching film 24/7.