Chiefs have not had 3 straight winning seasons since 1997

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Don't expect me to pay utilities; it was your choice to let me live rent free inside your head.

Say dumb shit and then make 'dome' references.

So you're a Jim Rome fan, eh?

You're still an idiot. And as the loudest of Clay's mindless underlings, you haven't exactly acquitted yourself well.

Please, do remind us all how much worse this team is than the 2012 team. You were so convincing the last time...

[RunKC]

Discuss crying about people insulting his troll posts as a personal attack in 3...2...1

"But he was attacking me and not my post guys"

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Say dumb shit and then make 'dome' references.

So you're a Jim Rome fan, eh?

You're still an idiot. And as the loudest of Clay's mindless underlings, you haven't exactly acquitted yourself well.

Please, do remind us all how much worse this team is than the 2012 team. You were so convincing the last time...

Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.

Damn, for a grown man, you sure act like a complete crybaby.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Damn, for a grown man, you sure act like a complete crybaby.

It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

No. You're just a twat with no substance or mettle.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

No. You're just a twat with no substance or mettle.

Oh, the irony of using House...

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

or you just like being miserable and it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

More and more I've learned that the playoffs in any sport are a complete crapshoot. The trick for any GM should be to build a playoff caliber team, because ANYTHING can happen come playoff team.

Do I expect Alex and Andy to win the Super Bowl? No.

But did anyone expect Joe Flacco or Tom Coughlin's teams to go all the way? Absolutely not.

The fact that this team can compete with the best should excite anybody. Waving away playoff contention as if it isn't a major accomplishment puts you in a confusing place as a fan.

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

More and more I've learned that the playoffs in any sport are a complete crapshoot. The trick for any GM should be to build a playoff caliber team, because ANYTHING can happen come playoff team.

Prime example, a sub-500 Seattle team beating a good Saints team a few years back in the first round of the playoffs.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

The fact that this team can compete with the best should excite anybody. Waving away playoff contention as if it isn't a major accomplishment puts you in a confusing place as a fan.

Oh they "competed" with Green Bay this year, didn't they.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Oh they "competed" with Green Bay this year, didn't they.

Football is a hard game. Almost every NFL team gets blown out at least once a season. If that's all it took for you to waive the white flag, the Chiefs might not be for you.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Oh they "competed" with Green Bay this year, didn't they.

NE gets excused of getting their ass stomped by us because they were playing shitty early in the season, but we get no such treatment for our early season blunders.

I'm glad I'm not the only person here who thinks you are a ****ing whiney bitch.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

More and more I've learned that the playoffs in any sport are a complete crapshoot. The trick for any GM should be to build a playoff caliber team, because ANYTHING can happen come playoff team.

Do I expect Alex and Andy to win the Super Bowl? No.

But did anyone expect Joe Flacco or Tom Coughlin's teams to go all the way? Absolutely not.

The fact that this team can compete with the best should excite anybody. Waving away playoff contention as if it isn't a major accomplishment puts you in a confusing place as a fan.

We have yet to prove we can beat a team with a top 10 offense.

That we'll have to prove in the playoffs.

The good news for us is there is no healthy AFC team with a top 10 offense...

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Rausch

We have yet to prove we can beat a team with a top 10 offense.

That we'll have to prove in the playoffs.

The good news for us is there is no healthy AFC team with a top 10 offense...

It's true that this team has a lot to prove.

Luckily the AFC is wide open this year. So wide that some success in the playoffs isn't out of the question.

I'd like to think my expectations and assessment of the team is fairly reasonable.

I won't lie, the continuous moping about the team is getting pretty tiring. Is it possible we get bounced from the first round? Sure. In fact I still don't think Alex and Andy can lead a championship team.

But that doesn't mean I won't enjoy the ride while it lasts.