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Old 12-21-2015, 03:42 PM   #1
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Steve Smith was the Ravens #1 WR, Kamar Aiken was their #2.

Kamar Aiken 62 receptions, 802 yds., 5 touchdowns

Albert Wilson 29 receptions, 393 yds., 2 tds
Not right now he's not.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:48 PM   #2
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Not right now he's not.


The fact that he's injured doesn't mean that the Ravens didn't have a much better #2 WR than Wilson when the season started.

Using your logic, I guess the Chiefs are better at QB than the Bengals and the Cowboys.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:49 PM   #3
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The fact that he's injured doesn't mean that the Ravens didn't have a much better #2 WR than Wilson when the season started.

Using your logic, I guess the Chiefs are better at QB than the Bengals and the Cowboys.
Right now? Yeah.....they are. The NFL is a right now league.

Aiken doesn't come near those stats if Steve Smith isn't injured.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:53 PM   #4
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Right now? Yeah.....they are. The NFL is a right now league.

Aiken doesn't come near those stats if Steve Smith isn't injured.
Ummmm...before you go off spouting any more stupid shit, check Aiken's stats in the games that Steve Smith played and compare them to Albert Wilson's.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:56 PM   #5
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Ummmm...before you go off spouting any more stupid shit, check Aiken's stats in the games that Steve Smith played and compare them to Albert Wilson's.
So Albert Wilson is better than Davante Adams right?

I mean....stats.....right?
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:59 PM   #6
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So Albert Wilson is better than Davante Adams right?

I mean....stats.....right?
James Jones is better than Randall Cobb. Wait...we're talking standard leagues, right? I mean shit, you start talking about PPR and all bets are off.

Can we get a ruling from hammersticks here? Fantasy Guy needs to steer us all straight. Should the Packers give James Jones a big money extension or not?

Because, like you said - stats.
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James Jones is better than Randall Cobb. Wait...we're talking standard leagues, right? I mean shit, you start talking about PPR and all bets are off.

Can we get a ruling from hammersticks here? Fantasy Guy needs to steer us all straight. Should the Packers give James Jones a big money extension or not?

Because, like you said - stats.
Maclin has more receptions and yards than Megatron. He's better....because stats.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:19 PM   #8
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They're serviceable. I honestly don't think the #2 and #3 matter so much, unless Maclin is injured. Smith is a one read QB. Even the announcers yesterday were talking about it, "If his 1st read is covered, he's looking to run", so guys like Wilson and Conley won't see many targets anyway unless it's drawn up like that.
Well it's all about this right here, and I was thinking it, but unwilling to type the words.

We are in decent shape at WR as is... but yes... what if?

If we are down to starting Wilson and Conley, then we could be in some serious ****ing trouble. Everyone in here would metaphorically shit themselves with stress over that starting duo. This is the only reason why WR should at least be considered as a position to not overlook. I admit, I'm ambivalent about spending resources on another WR, but without Maclin in there.. holy shit!

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If Maclin got hurt tomorrow we'd be completely ****ed. Albert Wilson is "okay" and while I'm a huge fan of Conley, he hasn't proven much.
Boom. Exactly.

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Stevie Johnson and/or Malcolm Floyd.

Both guys are presently kinda getting #1 targets but apart from just regurgitating stats, please tell me what either of those guys do on a football field better than Wilson. Floyd dropped one of the easiest TDs you'll ever see 2 weeks ago and it probably cost the Chargers the football game. The highlight of Steven Johnson's last 4 seasons was probably blowing out Berry's knee.
You point out the only drop on the season out of Floyd's 61 targets to cut him down for your purposes? really? I'm not even saying he's better, really, but he's definitely more proven.



Anyway... All the arguing about whether Wilson is better than other team's #2 was pretty well cleared up when someone listed a rather small and pathetically deceptive list of backups stepping in for injured players. That's basically just tapping out in acknowledgment of one's own lost argument.

I think Wilson has at least shown that he belongs in the NFL.. but how good is he? eh.. I'd say he's an "okay" #2 right now. I like our #1, #2, and #3 in Mac, AW, and CC... but if that's all we can really count on.. we better pray every night that Maclin stays healthy.
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So Albert Wilson is better than Davante Adams right?

I mean....stats.....right?


Um....ever hear of Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb?
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Um....ever hear of Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb?
Ever heard of Aaron Rodgers?
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Um....ever hear of Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb?
Well shit.....Albert Wilson is better than Jordy Nelson. Nelson has 0 receptions for 0 yards and 0 TDs.
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The fact that he's injured doesn't mean that the Ravens didn't have a much better #2 WR than Wilson when the season started.

Using your logic, I guess the Chiefs are better at QB than the Bengals and the Cowboys.
And in order for your logic to work they'd need identical QB's in identical systems in identical circumstances. Chiefs have the 27th ranked passing offense in the league. Their passing game is complimentary, not the focal point. I don't think their philosophy in the passing game needs to explained and being a starting WR doesn't mean you're a primary option either.
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