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Old 09-07-2022, 03:10 PM   #1
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I'd be fine with the old rule that you can't intentionally ground the ball ever.(exception for spikes) Take the sack or make a reasonable attempt at a completion, don't care if the QB is outside of the tackle. Rodgers and Wilson abuse the hell out of this rule, especially in the red zone.
I've never understood the penalty for intentional grounding. They say it's a loss of down and the ball is marked where it was thrown. So if Russell Wilson is about to get sacked on 1st down 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he intentionally grounds the ball, then the refs mark it as 2nd down and 16.

Well, that's no different than if he was sacked, right? So intentional grounding is not really a penalty at all. It's just a decision to ignore that he threw the ball.

I like The Steam's Rule 6, plus my wire rule in Post 69 and my suggested penalty of actually losing a down instead of merely pretending that a play happened. If the NFL did that, we'd have no more complaints about intentional grounding.
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:49 PM   #2
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I've never understood the penalty for intentional grounding. They say it's a loss of down and the ball is marked where it was thrown. So if Russell Wilson is about to get sacked on 1st down 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he intentionally grounds the ball, then the refs mark it as 2nd down and 16.
It's 10 yards from the LOS. If the QB was more than 10 yds behind the line then it is a spotted where he threw the pass. But if the QB has ran backwards more than 10 yds he was probably out of the tackle box anyway and it's legal as long as the ball gets back to the LOS
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