College Football: The Colorado Buffalos

[Bearcat]

Meh, I haven't paid attention a ton to what Deion has said or whatever, but don't know why people get worked up about it... he might learn lessons in not getting other teams worked up, but he's also taken one of the worst football programs in recent years, beat a ranked team, went 3-0.... and they were 20 point underdogs yesterday; despite anything he said to get his team motivated, everyone knew where they stood.

Whatever he's doing is clearly working, and just like Kansas last year, it's not like they're going from shittiest ever to consistent world beaters in a matter of a season. Deion knows that just like everyone else.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Meh, I haven't paid attention a ton to what Deion has said or whatever, but don't know why people get worked up about it... he might learn lessons in not getting other teams worked up, but he's also taken one of the worst football programs in recent years, beat a ranked team, went 3-0.... and they were 20 point underdogs yesterday; despite anything he said to get his team motivated, everyone knew where they stood.

Whatever he's doing is clearly working, and just like Kansas last year, it's not like they're going from shittiest ever to consistent world beaters in a matter of a season. Deion knows that just like everyone else.

Agreed. Seems like some folks just don't like Deion, which is fine. I could care less about Colorado football but I can recognize a good coaching job when I see one. He has already tripled their win total from last year. He could lose out and this is still a better season. Oregon is really good. Everyone knew (probably even Deion) that the Ducks were gonna kick their ass. I think the Kansas comp is a good one. Colorado will probably win 6-7 games and make a lower tier bowl. Good for them.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Meh, I haven't paid attention a ton to what Deion has said or whatever, but don't know why people get worked up about it... he might learn lessons in not getting other teams worked up, but he's also taken one of the worst football programs in recent years, beat a ranked team, went 3-0.... and they were 20 point underdogs yesterday; despite anything he said to get his team motivated, everyone knew where they stood.

Whatever he's doing is clearly working, and just like Kansas last year, it's not like they're going from shittiest ever to consistent world beaters in a matter of a season. Deion knows that just like everyone else.

How many 60 min interviews and prime time fluff pieces did the rest of the country have to see about Kansas? The opposing coach's clicks and wins line was pretty spot on.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by ghak99

How many 60 min interviews and prime time fluff pieces did the rest of the country have to see about Kansas? The opposing coach's clicks and wins line was pretty spot on.

I missed where Kansas hired a coach from a HBCU who in turn brought a bunch of HBCU players to a Division I school and was successful?

[KCUnited]

While personally fulfilling to see, a “loud” blowout just adds to the brand Deion is building

He’ll have all the dawgs he needs next season

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

While personally fulfilling to see, a “loud” blowout just adds to the brand Deion is building

He’ll have all the dawgs he needs next season

A 1-11 record last year. Even god almighty couldn't beat a legit top 10 team, a contender for the championship on their home turf in game 4 of his first season.

I agree. Next year he will land more top recruits and the best players in the portal.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I missed where Kansas hired a coach from a HBCU who in turn brought a bunch of HBCU players to a Division I school and was successful?

Now we're getting to the good part.

In an attempt to not get thread banned or moved to DC I'll just say some of us expected the NFL HOF'er we've watched for years to be better than average at his job and to have some level of success. Treating him and his success as normal and expected instead of some kind of disney story line is a complement to him and his players. Fluffing it as more or less based on anything other than the actual performance seems to indicate a motive or belief.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Now we're getting to the good part.

In an attempt to not get thread banned or moved to DC I'll just say some of us expected the NFL HOF'er we've watched for years to be better than average at his job and to have some level of success. Treating him and his success as normal and expected instead of some kind of disney story line is a complement to him and his players. Fluffing it as more or less based on anything other than the actual performance seems to indicate a motive or belief.

3-0 isn't actual performance? Taking Jackson State - a perennial loser - to multiple bowl games after his arrival - isn't performance? Who has the motive or belief here?

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

3-0 isn't actual performance? Taking Jackson State - a perennial loser - to multiple bowl games after his arrival - isn't performance? Who has the motive or belief here?

You're the one doing all the assuming and white knighting here. Just go ahead and "bless his heart" while you're at it.

He's a HOF player turned coach with tools to be semi successful. So far he's used his tools to do a decent job of recruiting and then beat a few shit teams, including TCU, and lost to a boss. It's ok to leave it at that without the qualifier or turning the work into a Disney story. They might even get a few more wins if the media would do the same, but that doesn't pull the right strings so it will be what it will be and they'll wear a target for it.

.... and no, I don't believe I've ever met stevieray, but I assume it'd be a good experience if I ever did.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I also think you are failing to take into consideration that coaches and players from HBCU's have traditionally been viewed as "lesser" players that can't compete with the "big boys" of division 1. Here we are and they are competing is a pretty compelling story - regardless of how you feel about Deion Sanders his style of coaching is effective.

I don’t think we really know what his coaching style is. I’m a firm believer that in NCAA FB and MBB, it’s much, much less about X’s/O’s and way more about talent acquisition.

He’s getting talent. In the wide hash mark game of CFB, that can carry you a long way.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ghak99

How many 60 min interviews and prime time fluff pieces did the rest of the country have to see about Kansas? The opposing coach's clicks and wins line was pretty spot on.

No idea, but is it really any different than the Chargers hype every season, everything Tom Brady, and all the other examples of sports media latching onto hype, no matter how manufactured?

Not to say it wasn't an extreme example, I don't watch all that shit for exactly that reason.

Regardless of the media taking it and running out of control with it, he's done a great job so far.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

They're not talking about my team!

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I went to MU and despise the Gayhawks, you ****ing idiot.