Chiefs sign Jaylon Moore 2 yrs $30M

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Delano

If they draft a tackle I’d wager it’s one meant for the right side. Extremely weak left tackle class and needing to replace Taylor next year.

We really have to redshirt a RT? A first rounder at that?

How did we have great offended with Wylie but now we're in the position to wildly overpay for Taylor AND use a first round pick on his replacement the year before he's cut.


The strategy for the OL just seems incredibly disorganized and like they're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by -King-

We really have to redshirt a RT? A first rounder at that?

How did we have great offended with Wylie but now we're in the position to wildly overpay for Taylor AND use a first round pick on his replacement the year before he's cut.


The strategy for the OL just seems incredibly disorganized and like they're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks.

At this point it is speculation on who the chiefs are looking at or have on their draft board. I doubt they believe there is more than 1 or 2 Tackles worth taking that have any hope of getting to 31. But I do believe LT and RT are going to be extremely costly if you do not find one this year or next in the draft. But it is a long shot an OL makes it to 31 who looks like a instant starter. I still think they probably go wr or DL

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by -King-

We really have to redshirt a RT? A first rounder at that?

How did we have great offended with Wylie but now we're in the position to wildly overpay for Taylor AND use a first round pick on his replacement the year before he's cut.


The strategy for the OL just seems incredibly disorganized and like they're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks.

Did you just read somebody's guess of what the Chiefs might do then assume that it's the Chiefs strategy?

How exactly is anything the Chiefs have done so far with the OL "disorganized"?

Also, the Chiefs currently don't have a long term answer at either OT spot. Why would getting ahead of that be "throwing shit against the wall"?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Did you just read somebody's guess of what the Chiefs might do then assume that it's the Chiefs strategy?

How exactly is anything the Chiefs have done so far with the OL "disorganized"?

Also, the Chiefs currently don't have a long term answer at either OT spot. Why would getting ahead of that be "throwing shit against the wall"?

4 years after we "fixed" the O-line we have the highest paid guard/center combo in the league. Have the 4th highest paid RT in the league that we're eagerly waiting to get rid of. We're already planning contingencies for the guy we JUST signed that supposedly had potential to be our long term LT. And Kingsley is going to compete with Mike Caliendo for the LG spot.

Are we going to pretend that it's a stable position to be in?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by -King-

4 years after we "fixed" the O-line we have the highest paid guard/center combo in the league. Have the 4th highest paid RT in the league that we're eagerly waiting to get rid of. We're already planning contingencies for the guy we JUST signed that supposedly had potential to be our long term LT. And Kingsley is going to compete with Mike Caliendo for the LG spot.

Are we going to pretend that it's a stable position to be in?

First off, you are trying to create a narrative about the entire OL. IOL has been great for a while, and even after losing Thuney, it should still be a plus. It's about OT.

The Chiefs were unfortunate enough to have both OTs fall apart the same exact season. They've been trying to fix both spots long term ever since.

Taylor was obviously supposed to be one of those long term solutions, and in terms of a 3-4 year run/window, he was a solution, but he is absolutely overpaid. He's been fine when it matters most, so besides being overpaid, don't see the issue. The reason you're replacing him next year is to get cheaper there and he's approaching 30.

I don't know what it is with people like you and trying to create narratives about the team's personnel moves, but it's not even remotely complicated or confusing.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

First off, you are trying to create a narrative about the entire OL. IOL has been great for a while, and even after losing Thuney, it should still be a plus. It's about OT.

The Chiefs were unfortunate enough to have both OTs fall apart the same exact season. They've been trying to fix both spots long term ever since.

Taylor is overpaid, but he's been fine when it matters most. The reason you're replacing him is to get cheaper there and he's approaching 30.

I don't know what it is with people like you and your obsession with trying to created narratives about the team's personnel moves, but it's not even remotely complicated of confusing.

well, casual fans only notice the OL when they give up a sack or get a penalty. Taylor's given up a lot of penalties, but he has played fairly well other than that.

Overpay? Well, didn't have much choice.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

well, casual fans only notice the OL when they give up a sack or get a penalty. Taylor's given up a lot of penalties, but he has played fairly well other than that.

Overpay? Well, didn't have much choice.

Exactly. When you go out in the first wave of free agency and get a top FA, you are going to overpay.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by staylor26

First off, you are trying to create a narrative about the entire OL. IOL has been great for a while, and even after losing Thuney, it should still be a plus. It's about OT.

The Chiefs were unfortunate enough to have both OTs fall apart the same exact season. They've been trying to fix both spots long term ever since.

Taylor was obviously supposed to be one of those long term solutions, and in terms of a 3-4 year run/window, he was a solution, but he is absolutely overpaid. He's been fine when it matters most, so besides being overpaid, don't see the issue. The reason you're replacing him next year is to get cheaper there and he's approaching 30.

I don't know what it is with people like you and your obsession with trying to created narratives about the team's personnel moves, but it's not even remotely complicated of confusing.

Not creating a narrative. Just having a conversation and trying to get a better understanding. Even football experts like me get confused on some things.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by -King-

Not creating a narrative. Just having a conversation and trying to get a better understanding. Even football experts like me get confused on some things.

Yet:

The strategy for the OL just seems incredibly disorganized and like they're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks.

Sure, Jan.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yet:



Sure, Jan.

Yes. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that it is organized.

The beauty of a message board is that two people with contrasting opinions can share those opinions and participate in discussions regarding them. Wild right?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

4 years after we "fixed" the O-line we have the highest paid guard/center combo in the league. Have the 4th highest paid RT in the league that we're eagerly waiting to get rid of. We're already planning contingencies for the guy we JUST signed that supposedly had potential to be our long term LT. And Kingsley is going to compete with Mike Caliendo for the LG spot.

Are we going to pretend that it's a stable position to be in?

Lol if you think Mike Caliendo is going to get a legit chance to compete for starting guard.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Lol if you think Mike Caliendo is going to get a legit chance to compete for starting guard.

Andy said yesterday he was competing with Kinglsey for the starting LG position.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

They were wrong on Kingsley’s ability to play LT. Sometimes that just happens and you only wind up in the SB rather than winning the SB.

Kinda funny indeed.

Yeah, but have you considered the fact that I really, really, really wanted the threepeat???

[TEX]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Andy said yesterday he was competing with Kinglsey for the starting LG position.

!!!

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Did you just read somebody's guess of what the Chiefs might do then assume that it's the Chiefs strategy?

How exactly is anything the Chiefs have done so far with the OL "disorganized"?

Also, the Chiefs currently don't have a long term answer at either OT spot. Why would getting ahead of that be "throwing shit against the wall"?

One can’t judge the plan in April before the draft. And even with the draft, sometimes the board falls to you and sometimes it doesn’t. Doesn’t imply anything is or was “disorganized.”

It’s not like the Chiefs operate in a simple one-dimensional world. It’s all based on the probabilities around the success of potential outcomes. That’s just the reality of building a team.

Some of Veach and Reid’s swings have hit and some have missed, but they are hardly “disorganized” in the way they’ve done anything. There’s a pretty logical course of thought behind everything and it’s rare they make some move like the the more mediocre teams and you’re left scratching your head as to why.