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Old 09-14-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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Dorsey is an abortion of a pass-rusher. And Belcher? WTF are you smoking?
You don't know what you're watching then.

When Belcher has been brought on the blitz he has been very effective at it. His 2 sacks against Baltimore are just one example.

In 3 years, Dorsey has never been asked to be anything other than a run defender. The tools are there.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:24 PM   #2
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You don't know what you're watching then.

When Belcher has been brought on the blitz he has been very effective at it. His 2 sacks against Baltimore are just one example.

In 3 years, Dorsey has never been asked to be anything other than a run defender. The tools are there.
Apparently in week 1 he was asked to pressure the QB. It is silly to say he wasn't ask to rush the passer when he played 3rd down last year and wasn't taken out in passing situations.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:32 PM   #3
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Apparently in week 1 he was asked to pressure the QB. It is silly to say he wasn't ask to rush the passer when he played 3rd down last year and wasn't taken out in passing situations.
I'm sorry that you don't understand 3-4 football. Dorseys play last year is what got Hali his stats.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:33 PM   #4
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I'm sorry that you don't understand 3-4 football. Dorseys play last year is what got Hali his stats.
Hali's play is what got Hali's stats you ****ing idiot. Dorsey isn't fit to sniff Hali's jock, never has been and absolutely never will.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:44 PM   #5
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Hali's play is what got Hali's stats you ****ing idiot. Dorsey isn't fit to sniff Hali's jock, never has been and absolutely never will.
If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that Dorsey was taking up 2 blockers all year and that let Hali work 1 on 1.

This isn't rocket science here, folks.
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Hali's play is what got Hali's stats you ****ing idiot. Dorsey isn't fit to sniff Hali's jock, never has been and absolutely never will.
As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:20 PM   #7
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As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.


Hali shits all over Dorsey. I mean, Dorsey is not in the same GALAXY as Hali as a player. I realize people want to rationalize over another bust and a player we all WANTED to be great, who we thought would be great, but let's cut down on the stupid here. At his absolute best Dorsey's a fat biotch who can just about absorb a double-team without his knees buckling, while Hali can take over and at times completely dominate a game.

It's not about apples and oranges, it's about people's refusal to accept that Dorsey is not remotely close to anchoring the DL, all because he was supposed to and they liked him coming out. It's no different to those who used to crap all over Hali while he was developing because they didn't like the pick, despite the fact that Hali was and always has been way more advanced than Dorsey is and at this point likely ever will be.
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Hali shits all over Dorsey. I mean, Dorsey is not in the same GALAXY as Hali as a player.
As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.
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I'm sorry that you don't understand 3-4 football. Dorseys play last year is what got Hali his stats.
You are telling me that you think on passing downs where KC rushes 4 (Gilberry, NT, Dorsey and Hali) that only Hali is supposed to get to the QB? Does Gilberry realize he shouldn't have picked up a few sacks.
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Does anyone know what percentage of the defensive snaps Dorsey and TJ played? it seemed like Gilberry and Bailey were out there a lot. The Chiefs used some unusual front formations.
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You are telling me that you think on passing downs where KC rushes 4 (Gilberry, NT, Dorsey and Hali) that only Hali is supposed to get to the QB? Does Gilberry realize he shouldn't have picked up a few sacks.
In our scheme, the interior linemen in a 40 front are supposed to occupy the guards and center and allow the ends to get the pressure.

If you don't believe me, go watch the DVRs of the Gilberry sacks.

Being a big part of an effective pass rush doesn't have to mean you are the one getting the glory.
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In 3 years, Dorsey has never been asked to be anything other than a run defender. The tools are there.


The hilarity of you thinking someone else doesn't know what they're talking about when you post this homer trash. Hahahahaha.
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