Chiefs Great Manning Read. Closer To Reality

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Regarding the surrounding cast, I think KC is far and away in much better shape than Denver. No, we wouldn't go to the SB this season with Manning, but we'd be in the hunt, and next year even more so. I think the Donks have a much longer way to go than do the Chiefs. But, Manning didn't see it that way, so there's that.

Sure and I think I could make a case either way on the matter of talent with KC and Denver. Many here (and I realize it's CP

) have commented that Denver is littered with garbage and quite frankly, I think that's a load of bull.

Denver has a lot of really good talent - yes, they could use additional pieces, but a guy like Manning takes players and makes them better than they are with other QBs.

Hell, you guys saw that with Montana when he took over in KC... Willie Davis, JJ Birden. Really... REALLY?

Certain QBs make others rise up and play better - Manning is one of those guys and he'll have two young WRs (Thomas and Decker) chomping at the bit to learn and do well, and they should have really good seasons.

TheGuardian · 03-20-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Sure and I think I could make a case either way on the matter of talent with KC and Denver. Many here (and I realize it's CP

) have commented that Denver is littered with garbage and quite frankly, I think that's a load of bull.

Denver has a lot of really good talent - yes, they could use additional pieces, but a guy like Manning takes players and makes them better than they are with other QBs.

Hell, you guys saw that with Montana when he took over in KC... Willie Davis, JJ Birden. Really... REALLY?

Certain QBs make others rise up and play better - Manning is one of those guys and he'll have two young WRs (Thomas and Decker) chomping at the bit to learn and do well, and they should have really good seasons.

What actual talent does Denver have in comparison to KC? I'm not talking potential. I mean guys that have already produced better than the guys in KC at the same positions.

**petegz28** · 03-20-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

What actual talent does Denver have in comparison to KC? I'm not talking potential. I mean guys that have already produced better than the guys in KC at the same positions.

Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...

TheGuardian · 03-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...

I'm talking about actual players on offense.

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...

Denver also had one of your bunk QBs and a FB that throws passes, no?

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

What actual talent does Denver have in comparison to KC? I'm not talking potential. I mean guys that have already produced better than the guys in KC at the same positions.

I don't think I've ever typed that DEN > KC at all skill positions. I have stated that Denver isn't void of talent on offense or defense.

For the sake of this discussion, I'm more than happy to say that KC has the edge at talent (proven consistency).

TheGuardian · 03-20-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I don't think I've ever typed that DEN > KC at all skill positions. I have stated that Denver isn't void of talent on offense or defense.

For the sake of this discussion, I'm more than happy to say that KC has the edge at talent (proven consistency).

All I was getting at, thanks.

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

All I was getting at, thanks.

No problem... but again, sometimes what you see on paper doesn't always prove the point or get you to the end goal.

TheGuardian · 03-20-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No problem... but again, sometimes what you see on paper doesn't always prove the point or get you to the end goal.

That's true. But from a stand point of a guy picking a team to go QB for that is ready made, talent wise, for a SB KC should have been a logical choice.

I personally think that he only chose Denver because of his relationship with Elway.

**Rausch** · 03-20-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Certain QBs make others rise up and play better - Manning is one of those guys and he'll have two young WRs (Thomas and Decker) chomping at the bit to learn and do well, and they should have really good seasons.

No.

Montana, Elway, and even Farve were those types of guys.

Marino only went to one SB. There's a reason. I'd put Payed-a-ton in the same camp.

They want the game in their hands all the time.