Chiefs Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs BY ADAM TEICHER - Page 9

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-20-2012, 12:58 PM

Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs
BY ADAM TEICHER

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli said today he wasn’t aware why quarterback Peyton Manning spurned the Chiefs, and Pioli never asked him why.

“When this whole process started, after he was released, he and I were in communication with one another, as I was with his agent,’’ Pioli said on the same day that the division-rival Broncos announced they had signed Manning. “He had a plan, and he let me know that. He didn’t get into the details. He was up front about what he was doing and some of the visits he wanted to take and that we weren’t initially going to be a part of that, and I respected that.

“He had a plan and he executed it. He didn’t explain to me nor did I ask . . . I don’t think it was my place to do that. Those private conversations with a guy like Peyton, I don’t think it’s my place to divulge what he and I talked about or communicated about.’’

Manning wound up meeting with the Broncos, Cardinals, Titans and Dolphins. Other interested teams, including the Chiefs, couldn’t get an audience with him.

“That doesn’t necessarily mean the other teams he wasn’t going to talk to, that there was anything wrong with those places,’’ Pioli said. “He just had favorites and places he wanted to pursue for his reasons. I don’t think it would be fair for me to characterize why those teams and why not other teams. It’s not really my place to do that.’’

Asked why he didn’t press Manning on the issue, Pioli said, “If you spend time and energy and emotion fretting over things you can’t control, that’s time and energy we would have wasted not getting Eric Winston done, not getting Kevin Boss done and not getting the other players done.’’

Pioli said the Chiefs notified starting quarterback Matt Cassel that they would be attempting to contact Manning.

“He was aware of it before, during and after,” Pioli said. “Matt is aware there’s going to be competition. There’s nothing to hide from him. Peyton was available, we were interested and Matt knew about that.’’

Instead of Manning, the Chiefs signed Brady Quinn, who joins Cassel and Ricky Stanzi at quarterback. Quinn said Monday he was told Cassel would be the starting quarterback.

The Chiefs had earlier indicated they would bring in someone to challenge Cassel for the starting spot.

“It’s something we were very clear with Brady about and something that’s abundantly clear to Matt and Ricky: The best players that give us the best chance to win on Sunday are going to be the ones to play,’’ Pioli said. “I think we have three quarterbacks on our roster that certainly have the potential and the ability to be starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So there is competition here. Brady has started and played in the National Football League. Ricky hasn’t done that yet, but I also think Ricky has some upside.’’

The Chiefs claimed Kyle Orton off waivers from Denver late last season, and he ended up starting three games for them. But the Chiefs were unable to re-sign him, and he instead joined the Cowboys as Tony Romo’s backup.

Pioli suggested that Orton’s contract with the Cowboys became too rich for the Chiefs.

“I know it was one heck of a contract he received,’’ Pioli said. “A very, very generous contract.’’

Posted on Tue, Mar. 20, 2012 01:45 PM

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Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

Why would you want to pay that guy 4 times more than Quinn?

Offensive YPG W/Orton: 384
W/Cassel: 306

Passing YPG with Orton: 258
W/Cassel: 193.

YPA with Orton: 8.0
W/Cassel: 6.4

Turnovers PG with Orton: 1
W/Cassel: 1.7

Defensive PPG allowed with orton: 11
W/Cassel: 24.2

Orton: 2-1 (against 2 playoff teams)
Cassel: 4-5 (0 wins against playoff teams, beat 3-13 Vikings, 2-14 Colts, Kyle Boller and Miracle Fumble Bullshit)

saphojunkie · 03-20-2012, 03:30 PM

Jeez, Peyton might be the first quarterback to get a GM fired without even being on the team.

**ShortRoundChief** · 03-20-2012, 03:32 PM

Got this gem from Teichers chat session today.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...m-teicher.html

12:13

Comment From Robert
I am 62 years old next month. I was at Fort Lenardwood when the Chiefs last played in a Super Bowl. What do you think are my chances to see the Chiefs make the Super Bowl again before I die?
12:14

Adam Teicher:
How long are you going to live? If it's only a few years, probably not good. If you'll be around until you're 90, there's a reasonable chance.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-20-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Offensive YPG W/Orton: 384
W/Cassel: 306

Passing YPG with Orton: 258
W/Cassel: 193.

Defensive PPG allowed with orton: 11
W/Cassel: 24.2

Turnovers PG with Orton: 1
W/Cassel: 1.7

Doesn't this mean that Orton had a better run game with less fumbles...and a better defense??

I'm not sure who this is supposed to help?

TEX · 03-20-2012, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Potential losses:

@Denver
@San Diego
@Oakland
Baltimore
Cincinnati
Atlanta
@Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
@Tampa Bay

We might win two of those.

9-7 ain't getting us to the playoffs.

Would have last year...easily
Besides I think KC can win at SD, OAK, TB and beat Cinci and Atlanta at home

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

[B]Pioli doesn’t know

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX

Would have last year...easily
Besides I think KC can win at SD, OAK

We aren't sweeping anyone in the division.

Messier · 03-20-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

We aren't sweeping anyone in the division.

Why not. We almost swept two teams last year. Oakland is worse SD is about the same, we are better. Yes we can sweep a team in this division.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-20-2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

We aren't sweeping anyone in the division.

We will sweep the fade. Have faith.

I think we will be a pretty solid team, better than most people here think. 10-6 or 11-5

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

We will sweep the fade. Have faith.

I think we will be a pretty solid team, better than most people here think. 10-6 or 11-5

The Raiders have won 4 of 6 against us under Scooter Peeholey.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-20-2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

The Raiders have won 4 of 6 against us under Scooter Peeholey.

Therefore the Gods must return the statistical tide...this cannot continue. It is the fade.

qabbaan · 03-20-2012, 04:01 PM

It sounds like the Chiefs weren't willing to pay what the market would bear.

I don't believe they were serious about pursuing him. Think of how secretive this team is. If they were in they wouldn't have been telling anyone. It was a PR move so they could blame Manning and not have to say "we are happy with Cassel and our unused cap space."

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-20-2012, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan

It sounds like the Chiefs weren't willing to pay what the market would bear.

Most likely...

I'm sure even if they were willing to pay, they weren't willing to do so without a prohibitive injury clause....

I don't think I would be willing to shell out that much cash without some sort of injury clause, but maybe Denver did?

**ShortRoundChief** · 03-20-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Most likely...

I'm sure even if they were willing to pay, they weren't willing to do so without a prohibitive injury clause....

I don't think I would be willing to shell out that much cash without some sort of injury clause, but maybe Denver did?

Manning's contract requires him to pass a physical in 2013 to make $20 million guaranteed money next year and in 2014 and pass physicals to earn his salary in 2015 and 2016, a safety clause in case Manning's neck injury limits his ability.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/P...#ixzz1phISTcja

Plus as expected they unretired his jersey number.

TEX · 03-20-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

We aren't sweeping anyone in the division.

Never said we would. Just commented on the games listed.

03-20-2012, 12:58 PM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-49474	Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs BY ADAM TEICHER Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs BY ADAM TEICHER Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli said today he wasn’t aware why quarterback Peyton Manning spurned the Chiefs, and Pioli never asked him why. “When this whole process started, after he was released, he and I were in communication with one another, as I was with his agent,’’ Pioli said on the same day that the division-rival Broncos announced they had signed Manning. “He had a plan, and he let me know that. He didn’t get into the details. He was up front about what he was doing and some of the visits he wanted to take and that we weren’t initially going to be a part of that, and I respected that. “He had a plan and he executed it. He didn’t explain to me nor did I ask . . . I don’t think it was my place to do that. Those private conversations with a guy like Peyton, I don’t think it’s my place to divulge what he and I talked about or communicated about.’’ Manning wound up meeting with the Broncos, Cardinals, Titans and Dolphins. Other interested teams, including the Chiefs, couldn’t get an audience with him. “That doesn’t necessarily mean the other teams he wasn’t going to talk to, that there was anything wrong with those places,’’ Pioli said. “He just had favorites and places he wanted to pursue for his reasons. I don’t think it would be fair for me to characterize why those teams and why not other teams. It’s not really my place to do that.’’ Asked why he didn’t press Manning on the issue, Pioli said, “If you spend time and energy and emotion fretting over things you can’t control, that’s time and energy we would have wasted not getting Eric Winston done, not getting Kevin Boss done and not getting the other players done.’’ Pioli said the Chiefs notified starting quarterback Matt Cassel that they would be attempting to contact Manning. “He was aware of it before, during and after,” Pioli said. “Matt is aware there’s going to be competition. There’s nothing to hide from him. Peyton was available, we were interested and Matt knew about that.’’ Instead of Manning, the Chiefs signed Brady Quinn, who joins Cassel and Ricky Stanzi at quarterback. Quinn said Monday he was told Cassel would be the starting quarterback. The Chiefs had earlier indicated they would bring in someone to challenge Cassel for the starting spot. “It’s something we were very clear with Brady about and something that’s abundantly clear to Matt and Ricky: The best players that give us the best chance to win on Sunday are going to be the ones to play,’’ Pioli said. “I think we have three quarterbacks on our roster that certainly have the potential and the ability to be starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So there is competition here. Brady has started and played in the National Football League. Ricky hasn’t done that yet, but I also think Ricky has some upside.’’ The Chiefs claimed Kyle Orton off waivers from Denver late last season, and he ended up starting three games for them. But the Chiefs were unable to re-sign him, and he instead joined the Cowboys as Tony Romo’s backup. Pioli suggested that Orton’s contract with the Cowboys became too rich for the Chiefs. “I know it was one heck of a contract he received,’’ Pioli said. “A very, very generous contract.’’ Posted on Tue, Mar. 20, 2012 01:45 PM Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy
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qabbaan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	It sounds like the Chiefs weren't willing to pay what the market would bear. I don't believe they were serious about pursuing him. Think of how secretive this team is. If they were in they wouldn't have been telling anyone. It was a PR move so they could blame Manning and not have to say "we are happy with Cassel and our unused cap space."
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