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Old 03-21-2012, 11:19 AM   #1
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Jesus ****, you're getting bent because of semantics?

My point is that Terry Bradshaw is never considered when discussing the all time greats, and I believe that is underating him tremendously.
He isn't in that discussion because he doesn't deserve to be in that discussion.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #2
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Let's hope one of two things happen:

1) Quinn pulls a Len Dawson and the light bulb goes on. (They are the same age and the circumstances are eerily similar...or
2)Stanzi pulls a Tom Brady. The tools are there, and if he's the film rat that everyone says, it could happen.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:45 AM   #3
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Let's hope one of two things happen:

1) Quinn pulls a Len Dawson and the light bulb goes on. (They are the same age and the circumstances are eerily similar...or
2)Stanzi pulls a Tom Brady. The tools are there, and if he's the film rat that everyone says, it could happen.
Except that Dawson never really had a chance to play before being signed in KC.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:47 AM   #4
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Except that Dawson never really had a chance to play before being signed in KC.
Quinn has played in 12 games.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:51 AM   #5
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Quinn has played in 12 games.
And how many games did Lenny play in?

1?
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:54 AM   #6
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And how many games did Lenny play in?

1?
I'm not sure. I'm not really familiar with his career before the Chiefs.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:56 AM   #7
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:59 AM   #8
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I'm not sure. I'm not really familiar with his career before the Chiefs.
See my following post.

Quinn had more opportunity than Lenny, has a larger body of work to judge him from.

I am not discounting the possibility that the right situation with the right coaching can untap the potential that made Quinn a first round talent, but I am also not going to get my hopes raised.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:52 AM   #9
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Quinn has played in 12 games.
So odd...I have a friend that works at ND and we talk about Quinn and Clausen (not a good word said about Jimmy) a lot. He is still clueless as to why you draft a guy in the first round and only give him a 12 game window to show what he has to offer. Quinn had moments of competence in those 12 games as well.
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So odd...I have a friend that works at ND and we talk about Quinn and Clausen (not a good word said about Jimmy) a lot. He is still clueless as to why you draft a guy in the first round and only give him a 12 game window to show what he has to offer. Quinn had moments of competence in those 12 games as well.
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12 games on a ****ing shit team that was devoid of talent.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:00 PM   #11
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12 games on a ****ing shit team that was devoid of talent.
Too bad he isn't going to be given a fair shot at winning the job here, either.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:46 AM   #12
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Let's hope one of two things happen:

1) Quinn pulls a Len Dawson and the light bulb goes on. (They are the same age and the circumstances are eerily similar...or
2)Stanzi pulls a Tom Brady. The tools are there, and if he's the film rat that everyone says, it could happen.
#1 is where I would put my money. Watching Quinn A LOT in college I thought for certain he would be a player that would have a lot of success in the NFL year over year. He is intelligent, athletic, and has all the tools you would want in a starting QB including leadership. I thought he handled his draft slide just as well as Aaron Rodgers did and thought that Quinn was more of a complete QB than Rodgers coming out.

Hopefully if given an opportunity, KC can catch the "Len Lightning" again in Brady Quinn.
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He isn't in that discussion because he doesn't deserve to be in that discussion.
How do you define greatness?

Big numbers don't impress me.

Greatness, to me, is defined by what you do in the biggest moments, and no one delivered in big moments more consistently than Joe Montana, Bart Starr, and Terry Bradshaw.
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How do you define greatness?

Big numbers don't impress me.

Greatness, to me, is defined by what you do in the biggest moments, and no one delivered in big moments more consistently than Joe Montana, Bart Starr, and Terry Bradshaw.
Terry Bradshaw doesn't belong on that list, but John Elway does. You're too young to have much memory of Bart Starr.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:02 PM   #15
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Terry Bradshaw doesn't belong on that list, but John Elway does. You're too young to have much memory of Bart Starr.
You'd be surprised by how much I remember about my early years and watching football, and that goes to things that happened in my personal life.

But I put Starr in the conversation based on long discussions with my uncle about football from my late teens and early twenties.
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