Chiefs have not had 3 straight winning seasons since 1997

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Say dumb shit and then make 'dome' references.

So you're a Jim Rome fan, eh?

You're still an idiot. And as the loudest of Clay's mindless underlings, you haven't exactly acquitted yourself well.

Please, do remind us all how much worse this team is than the 2012 team. You were so convincing the last time...

Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.

Damn, for a grown man, you sure act like a complete crybaby.

[Shekelsteinberg]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.

This whole post made me cringe. You should be embarassed tbh fam.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If only this team had more talent than the one Dorsey inherited, then we'd really be in good shape.

Discuss Thrower is still an idiot.

Our roster reminds me of the Royals roster this year. We don't have much in the way of star players, but the depth and versatility has been amazing. Injuries seem to be a bigger factor in the league every year. Maybe the new trend is going to be building teams that can survive a war of attrition.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Our roster reminds me of the Royals roster this year. We don't have much in the way of star players, but the depth and versatility has been amazing. Injuries seem to be a bigger factor in the league every year. Maybe the new trend is going to be building teams that can survive a war of attrition.

That's not a new trend - it's what Ron Wolf did in GB for years.

Horizontal roster building; depth across the team. It's essentially exactly the opposite of the stars/scrubs approach from Pioli.

I still can't understand how people forgot so quickly why those teams cratered. I mean, the obvious is Cassel but the supporting cast on those squads was just so friggen abysmal. The NFL is all about exploiting matchups and in any given game there were 3 mismatches on either side of the ball for the Chiefs because Pioli simply couldn't firm up the depth on this roster.

And unlike Pioli, Dorsey has shown a willingness and an ability to go kick over every rock trying to find a contributor. He uses every single spot on this roster to great effect, as opposed to Pioli that only seemed to give a shit about the top 25 or so and let the remaining half of the roster atrophy to the point that most of the guys we cut never played another NFL game.

Dorsey's not doing anything new here - he's doing what he learned under Wolf with the Packers and its absolutely the right way to go about doing things.

[scho63]

They got a long way to go to catch Marty and his 9 straight years of a winning record.

[rabblerouser]

I'm still waiting for another playoff win.


I wasn't even in high school yet, last time the Chiefs won a playoff game...

[brucey_72]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm still waiting for another playoff win.


I wasn't even in high school yet, last time the Chiefs won a playoff game...

Last time the Chiefs won a playoff game I wasn't quite 3 years old yet.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by scho63

They got a long way to go to catch Marty and his 9 straight years of a winning record.

With his every other year of 13-3.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by scho63

They got a long way to go to catch Marty and his 9 straight years of a winning record.

Martyocrity for the MF.......something.

[kcchiefsus]

To win consistently you need a good quarterback and a good head coach, along with consistency. Since we haven't been able to find a good quarterback, besides Trent Green who was already old enough that he was never going to be here that long, we haven't had a quarterback that would consistently have this team in contention year in and year out. If we would find a quarterback in the draft FINALLY it would make everything else so much easier. I doubt it will ever happen though, this franchise is cursed.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

To win consistently you need a good quarterback and a good head coach, along with consistency. Since we haven't been able to find a good quarterback, besides Trent Green who was already old enough that he was never going to be here that long, we haven't had a quarterback that would consistently have this team in contention year in and year out. If we would find a quarterback in the draft FINALLY it would make everything else so much easier. I doubt it will ever happen though, this franchise is cursed.

One important thing you have missing- lack of injuries. Just ask the Ravens or Chargers about that one.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by scho63

One important thing you have missing- lack of injuries. Just ask the Ravens or Chargers about that one.

I don't know if you've noticed, but we've lost our top nickel back, 2 RBs, and our Oline has been decimated.

Good teams overcome injuries.

The Packers had 25 people on IR in 2010. They won the Super Bowl anyway.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I don't know if you've noticed, but we've lost our top nickel back, 2 RBs, and our Oline has been decimated.

Good teams overcome injuries.

The Packers had 25 people on IR in 2010. They won the Super Bowl anyway.

No kidding. The Chiefs haven't been hit as hard as the Ravens or Chargers, but I'd put them at above average in terms of the dings they've suffered through this year.

3 wins in a row without Houston (not to mention the entire comeback against the Bills without him). Losing Charles and Gaines. DeVito and Bailey gone for long stretches. Poe's slow return to form.

I don't think the Chiefs have to apologize for any good health this season. A few teams have had worse but many have had better.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No kidding. The Chiefs haven't been hit as hard as the Ravens or Chargers, but I'd put them at above average in terms of the dings they've suffered through this year.

3 wins in a row without Houston (not to mention the entire comeback against the Bills without him). Losing Charles and Gaines. DeVito and Bailey gone for long stretches. Poe's slow return to form.

I don't think the Chiefs have to apologize for any good health this season. A few teams have had worse but many have had better.

Sounds wrong to say, but don't forget Jeff Allen... and then there's Ben Grubbs. Two decent starters... replaced by scrubs, really.