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FloridaMan88 · 07-15-2011, 07:54 AM

So it appears from most reports that the agreed upon 2011 salary cap will be $120 million with the salary floor constituting AT LEAST (and this could be increased) 90% of the salary cap (about $108 million)

Most reports had the Chiefs payroll last season near $90 million.

This means that the Chiefs will be forced to spend about $20 million just to meet the salary floor.

Clark's Chiefs will be FORCED to pursue an aggressive approach in free agency.

aturnis · 07-16-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Eh, I'd say if the defense has a liability, it's at NT.

Teams can run right up the gut on us. I'm not a huge fan of Belcher, and feel he could be upgraded, but NT and Vrabel's spot are much more important.

Let's face it we won 4 games due to defense and/or special teams.

We had one other game where the defense played well and the offense did shit.

We had a playoff game where the defense held as long as they could while the offense kept turning the ball over.

Honestly, besides the soft schedule, the defense is the biggest reason this team went 10-6 last year.

NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.

aturnis · 07-16-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Gabe Miller.

Are we forgetting about Justin Houston?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-16-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Gabe Miller.

Maybe in 2012 or 2013.

Shouldn't expect much this year considering the lockout. Same for Houston.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-16-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.

Agreed, and this is assuming Flowers and Carr are re-signed.

milkman · 07-16-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Are we forgetting about Justin Houston?

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Maybe in 2012 or 2013.

Shouldn't expect much this year considering the lockout. Same for Houston.

Damn, I was expecting, at the least, to get laughed at.

I posted for response.

Of course I think Houston is the guy.

Edit:Since I don't have any high expectations for this team this year, I'm willing to let Houston suffer the growing pains of learning on the job.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-16-2011, 07:23 PM

Harris was a beast minus a nt. Of course wed still.need a nt but harris would dramatically make a bad nt look better.

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Originally Posted by aturnis

NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.

**BossChief** · 07-16-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Harris was a beast minus a nt. Of course wed still.need a nt but harris would dramatically make a bad nt look better.

That's what Belcher helped do behind our pigs with lipstick we trotted out for the nose.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-16-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan

Defense is NOT the problem, FFS.

Its also not the solution. But its prettu damn close to.it.

aturnis · 07-16-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Maybe in 2012 or 2013.

Shouldn't expect much this year considering the lockout. Same for Houston.

Houston's main trouble transitioning will be that he is now playing across from men. He's already played in a system very much like ours.

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"Understanding the playbook begins in the classroom and is proven on the practice field. Fortunately, the Chiefs have one rookie who has already begun to cross that bridge.

Third-round draft pick Justin Houston.

One of the assets that Houston brings to the Chiefs is the defensive coordinator he played for last season. Houston’s already undergone the transition from 4-3 defensive end to 3-4 outside linebacker – a switch that most players don’t make until they reach the NFL level – and played a year in a pro-style defensive system.

In many ways, Houston has already played in the Chiefs defensive system.

Todd Grantham took over the Bulldogs’ defensive coordinator job in 2010 and quickly switched to a pro-style 3-4 base. He’d spent the previous 11 seasons coaching defense in the NFL – much of it inside the 3-4 scheme.

Three of Grantham’s 11 professional seasons (2005-07) came in Cleveland as Romeo Crennel’s defensive coordinator. He was one of Crennel’s initial hires as the two shared a common vision about the 3-4 defense.

Grantham implemented many of those same ideas at Georgia last season.

Houston represented one of Grantham’s first projects. Any worthwhile 3-4 defense has a threat to the quarterback at outside linebacker. Grantham pegged Houston as that threat.

Operating under a 3-4 system that mirrors the basics of Kansas City’s approach, and even uses much of the same terminology, Houston delivered a career year. After producing 58 tackles with 10.0 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss during his first two seasons as a Bulldog, Houston registered 67 tackles, 10.0 sacks, and 18.5 tackles for loss in his lone season playing for Grantham."

He not a genius in the system, but it's a good head start.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-16-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

That's what Belcher helped do behind our pigs with lipstick we trotted out for the nose.

I like belcher. But there's also a.chance he's just adequate. We're talking about passimg on a stud because of potential.

aturnis · 07-16-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Harris was a beast minus a nt. Of course wed still.need a nt but harris would dramatically make a bad nt look better.

NEXT YEARS ILB CLASSES IS GOD-LIKE!

**BossChief** · 07-16-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I like belcher. But there's also a.chance he's just adequate. We're talking about passimg on a stud because of potential.

If my team has premier coaches, I'll take the young ascending player over the good vet all day.

Every day.

I'm also a big fan of Micah Johnson who may well earn some quality playing time next year if he is fully recovered.

Sleeper linebacker for us.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-16-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan

Improvement yes, but it's not the glaring liability at this point.

We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "

aturnis · 07-16-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "

You are not listening! There are TWO holes left to fill on defense. If we can fill the NT spot this year, we do it. No matter how we finish this year we stand to get a STUD ILB next year in the draft.

**BossChief** · 07-16-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "

After extending DJs deal, if we were to trade for Harris we might as well trade Belcher to the highest bidder because we won't be able to resign him when he deal ends.

It's just a bad idea on a lot of levels.

Can't win em all.

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