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Old 07-16-2011, 06:18 PM   #1
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Defense is NOT the problem, FFS.
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:35 PM   #2
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Defense is NOT the problem, FFS.
To win playof games, we absolutely MUST get stronger at the POA in those a gaps.

That goes for both sides of the ball, but I think we did exactly that with the Hudson pick.
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:46 PM   #3
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There's a lot of room for improvement there.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:05 PM   #4
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There's a lot of room for improvement there.
Improvement yes, but it's not the glaring liability at this point.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:07 PM   #5
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Improvement yes, but it's not the glaring liability at this point.
Eh, I'd say if the defense has a liability, it's at NT.

Teams can run right up the gut on us. I'm not a huge fan of Belcher, and feel he could be upgraded, but NT and Vrabel's spot are much more important.

Let's face it we won 4 games due to defense and/or special teams.

We had one other game where the defense played well and the offense did shit.

We had a playoff game where the defense held as long as they could while the offense kept turning the ball over.

Honestly, besides the soft schedule, the defense is the biggest reason this team went 10-6 last year.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:07 PM   #6
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Eh, I'd say if the defense has a liability, it's at NT.

Teams can run right up the gut on us. I'm not a huge fan of Belcher, and feel he could be upgraded, but NT and Vrabel's spot are much more important.
Think we've got Vrabel's spot covered.
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Eh, I'd say if the defense has a liability, it's at NT.

Teams can run right up the gut on us. I'm not a huge fan of Belcher, and feel he could be upgraded, but NT and Vrabel's spot are much more important.

Let's face it we won 4 games due to defense and/or special teams.

We had one other game where the defense played well and the offense did shit.

We had a playoff game where the defense held as long as they could while the offense kept turning the ball over.

Honestly, besides the soft schedule, the defense is the biggest reason this team went 10-6 last year.
NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.
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NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.
Agreed, and this is assuming Flowers and Carr are re-signed.
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Harris was a beast minus a nt. Of course wed still.need a nt but harris would dramatically make a bad nt look better.

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NT is for sure the ultimate liability on defense. If addressed, it will improve the play of both Belcher and Johnson. I agree that Belcher could be replaced, but he will work for now, especially with the ILB class coming next year. I said it earlier, Belcher is a backup for the Steelers and Ravens, but he's good enough for us in 2011.

Fix the NT this year, grab a top ILB in round 1 next year and our defense is set. That is long as Houston/Studebaker situation pans out, and either Jackson steps up or Bailey or one of the other backups does.
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Harris was a beast minus a nt. Of course wed still.need a nt but harris would dramatically make a bad nt look better.
That's what Belcher helped do behind our pigs with lipstick we trotted out for the nose.
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Improvement yes, but it's not the glaring liability at this point.
We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
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We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
You are not listening! There are TWO holes left to fill on defense. If we can fill the NT spot this year, we do it. No matter how we finish this year we stand to get a STUD ILB next year in the draft.
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