The QB Reid chooses to lead the Chiefs

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's really not true. The knock on him was height, not ability or athleticism. Pete Carroll and John Schneider say him as a potential starter from day one, which is exactly what he did.

People forget this guy was a two sport star that was offered a one million dollar MLB contract when he was 18 and was later drafted in the MLB. But the dude loved football more than money.

If Wilson was 6'2 or taller, he'd have been in the Top 3 last year.

If Pete Carroll had known he would be as successful and he has been, the Seahawks would have taken him in the first round and wouldn't have worried about Matt Flynn.

If you remove Russel Wilson from the Seahawks roster and put him into the 2013 draft, he'd probably be projected as the #1.

So the fact is, that Russel Wilson last year wasn't projected as someone who would likely be a successful NFL starter.

Irony stands.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by cdcox

If you remove Russel Wilson from the Seahawks roster and put him into the 2013 draft, he'd probably be projected and the #1.

Ummmm... probably not.

People would still be saying the same thing about him... "Too small." He would end up in the 2nd day just like last year.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Ummmm... probably not.

People would still be saying the same thing about him... "Too small." He would end up in the 2nd day just like last year.

Yeah if you threw 6-0 Drew Brees into the 2013 NFL draft he'd probably still be drafted at the top of the 2nd round.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Yeah if you threw 6-0 Drew Brees into the 2013 NFL draft he'd probably still be drafted at the top of the 2nd round.

Why stop there? Let's throw Tom Brady into the 2013 draft and see where he goes... stop being ****ing reeruned.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Why stop there? Let's throw Tom Brady into the 2013 draft and see where he goes... stop being ****ing reeruned.

Dude. Come on. The reason for alluding to Brees is pretty obvious.

And people are greatly mistaken if they think that a '12 redraft wouldn't find Wilson early in the first.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dude. Come on. The reason for alluding to Brees is pretty obvious.

And people are greatly mistaken if they think that a '12 redraft wouldn't find Wilson early in the first.

Redrafts are stupid.

You would not find Wilson early in the first if you redid '12. Because if you redid the '12 draft you would be only looking at his measurables and his college performance and that led to 32 teams passing on him multiple times.

But people like to play this game for some reason. "Look at what player X is doing... we should have drafted him in the first round!"

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by cdcox

If Pete Carroll had known he would be as successful and he has been, the Seahawks would have taken him in the first round and wouldn't have worried about Matt Flynn.

If you remove Russel Wilson from the Seahawks roster and put him into the 2013 draft, he'd probably be projected and the #1.

So the fact is, that Russel Wilson last year wasn't projected as someone who would likely be a successful NFL starter.

Irony stands.

What? No one wanted Wilson, other than the Seahawks, due to his height.

There's no ****ing way that would have changed this year. Now, it might make some teams question that philosophy in the future, due to Russell's success in spite of being 5'11.

But there is no ****ing way he'd be the clear #1 option at QB in 2013.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What? No one wanted Wilson, other than the Seahawks, due to his height.

There's no ****ing way that would have changed this year. Now, it might make some teams question that philosophy in the future, due to Russell's success in spite of being 5'11.

But there is no ****ing way he'd be the clear #1 option at QB in 2013.

Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.

You are playing the 20/20 game.

If Russell Wilson was still in college guess what wouldn't have happened? You guessed right! The Seahawks would have no success with Russell Wilson.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You are playing the 20/20 game.

If Russell Wilson was still in college guess what wouldn't have happened? You guessed right! The Seahawks would have no success with Russell Wilson.

Yes I am using 20/20 hindsight.

Dane said there is no Russel Wilson in this years draft. I called that ironic for obvious reasons.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Yes I am using 20/20 hindsight.

Dane said there is no Russel Wilson in this years draft. I called that ironic for obvious reasons.

What's obvious about it? I think you're really confused.

If I had said "There's no Nick Foles in this year's draft", I could understand your point. Foles had ideal size, was a third round pick and was a decent starter on a bad team. That would "ironic" because those players exist in spades.

But Russell Wilson is extremely unique. He's an amazing athlete that could be in Major League Baseball as a pitcher and refused a $1 million dollar signing bonus at age 18 because he wanted to play football. He played at not one but TWO FBS schools in NC State AND Wisconsin.

But the main reason why Russell wasn't taken earlier than the third round isn't because he didn't have a great pedigree, character or athleticism. It's because draft scouts and GM's don't put a high grade on quarterbacks shorter than 6'0, let alone 5'11.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.

Yeah, you're right: Russell Wilson of the 2012 Seahawks opened the door to the Seahawks drafting Russell Wilson in 2013.

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