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View Poll Results: I will only be happy if Andy Reid selects...
A QB with the 1st pick of the draft 167 48.69%
Trades back and selects a QB in the 1st round 39 11.37%
A QB in the 2nd round of the draft 17 4.96%
A QB in the mid to late rounds of the draft 2 0.58%
A free agent, or trade from another team at QB 10 2.92%
Michael Vick 7 2.04%
Kevin Kolb 2 0.58%
He's Andy ****ing Reid. He knows more than I do. Whoever he takes, I'm good. 94 27.41%
Gaz loves defense, but I want him to select our QB 5 1.46%
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:41 PM   #1
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If Pete Carroll had known he would be as successful and he has been, the Seahawks would have taken him in the first round and wouldn't have worried about Matt Flynn.

If you remove Russel Wilson from the Seahawks roster and put him into the 2013 draft, he'd probably be projected and the #1.

So the fact is, that Russel Wilson last year wasn't projected as someone who would likely be a successful NFL starter.

Irony stands.
What? No one wanted Wilson, other than the Seahawks, due to his height.

There's no ****ing way that would have changed this year. Now, it might make some teams question that philosophy in the future, due to Russell's success in spite of being 5'11.

But there is no ****ing way he'd be the clear #1 option at QB in 2013.
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:43 PM   #2
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What? No one wanted Wilson, other than the Seahawks, due to his height.

There's no ****ing way that would have changed this year. Now, it might make some teams question that philosophy in the future, due to Russell's success in spite of being 5'11.

But there is no ****ing way he'd be the clear #1 option at QB in 2013.
Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.
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Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.
You are playing the 20/20 game.

If Russell Wilson was still in college guess what wouldn't have happened? You guessed right! The Seahawks would have no success with Russell Wilson.
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You are playing the 20/20 game.

If Russell Wilson was still in college guess what wouldn't have happened? You guessed right! The Seahawks would have no success with Russell Wilson.
Yes I am using 20/20 hindsight.

Dane said there is no Russel Wilson in this years draft. I called that ironic for obvious reasons.
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Yes I am using 20/20 hindsight.

Dane said there is no Russel Wilson in this years draft. I called that ironic for obvious reasons.
What's obvious about it? I think you're really confused.

If I had said "There's no Nick Foles in this year's draft", I could understand your point. Foles had ideal size, was a third round pick and was a decent starter on a bad team. That would "ironic" because those players exist in spades.

But Russell Wilson is extremely unique. He's an amazing athlete that could be in Major League Baseball as a pitcher and refused a $1 million dollar signing bonus at age 18 because he wanted to play football. He played at not one but TWO FBS schools in NC State AND Wisconsin.

But the main reason why Russell wasn't taken earlier than the third round isn't because he didn't have a great pedigree, character or athleticism. It's because draft scouts and GM's don't put a high grade on quarterbacks shorter than 6'0, let alone 5'11.
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Based on the Seahawks success with him this year, I disagree.


Yeah, you're right: Russell Wilson of the 2012 Seahawks opened the door to the Seahawks drafting Russell Wilson in 2013.

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