Chiefs Justin Houston Contract Rumor... - Page 37

**ChiefGator** · 07-11-2015, 02:04 PM

Yeah, yeah.. Bleacher report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ey-from-chiefs

Says Justin Houston wants a JJ Watt type contract from the Chiefs. Watt signed a six year 100 million deal with Houston.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/

Those numbers actually seem fairly reasonable, assuming Houston keeps at his trade. Probably ends up being a little bit less guaranteed, but I could certainly live with that salary cap hit year-by-year.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

"Houston’s dominance was as a pass rusher, but he still graded positively as both a run defender (+8.1) and in coverage (+1.4). That means that throughout his career Houston has only graded negatively in one facet of the game over the course of a season once; his coverage grade during his rookie season. In 2014 he dropped into coverage 158 times.."

That's great but so what? Where does it say most in league? It has nothing to do with his contract negotiations. They won't be paying him to cover. This is dumb.

**Rausch** · 07-13-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

That's great but so what? It has nothing to do with his contract negotiations. They won't be paying him to cover.

They won't be paying him anything after this year.

He'll be gone for a sky-high contract and KC will be the ugly girl at the prom...

**hometeam** · 07-13-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

That's great but so what? It has nothing to do with his contract negotiations. They won't be paying him to cover.

You just said hes not that good of a coverage guy. Then proceeded to cry about how many times he was NOT dropped into coverage. Your wrong. You are going into everything blind. You say words, but they have no basis on reality, and when you find out your wrong, you just move the goalposts. You are wrong about every football take you have.

The fact he can cover, run stop, rush, get second chance sacks, on and on are all part of who he is as a player. That's why hes gonna get 97 million and you are going to get 97 dicks in the ass.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Your inability to see he's 1/4 Brooks, 1/4, Hardy Nickerson, and 1/2 DT is your failing.

That's what he is.

He is - BY FAR - the best OLB in the game...

None of those guys played LOLB. DT and DB played against the LT. Not the RT. Hardy Nickerson? Where did that come from? He was a MLB.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

You just said hes not that good of a coverage guy. Then proceeded to cry about how many times he was NOT dropped into coverage. Your wrong. You are going into everything blind. You say words, but they have no basis on reality, and when you find out your wrong, you just move the goalposts. You are wrong about every football take you have.

The fact he can cover, run stop, rush, get second chance sacks, on and on are all part of who he is as a player. That's why hes gonna get 97 million and you are going to get 97 dicks in the ass.

I said he was overrated in coverage. I said even if he is great in coverage who cares? We wouldn't be paying him for that. He wants to be paid like a "pass rusher" like Jimmy Graham wants to be paid like a "receiver."

Nobody gives a shit about the coverage in this situation and that includes Houston. The last tjing he wants to talk about is coverage. If he goes to the HOF or is seen by fans as better than DT at the end of his career it won't be because of coverage. He's not Derrick Brooks.

**TimBone** · 07-13-2015, 05:55 PM

lol...this thread is so much fun.

Hate Black Bob all you want. He provides the lulz.

**hometeam** · 07-13-2015, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

I said he was overrated in coverage. I said even if he is great in coverage who cares? We wouldn't be paying him for that. He wants to be paid like a "pass rusher" like Jimmy Graham wants to be paid like a "receiver."

Nobody gives a shit about the coverage in this situation and that includes Houston.

Houston = 97 mil

You = 97 dicks in ass

Sully · 07-13-2015, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

If that were true he wouldn't have had twenty sacks. He wants to be paid as a pass rusher. That is his argument for Watt money. Coverage isn't even relevant. If Sutton dropped him back more than other pass rushers, he would be on the street.

It is true.
it is relevant.
He does, and he's not.

Sully · 07-13-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

None of those guys played LOLB. DT and DB played against the LT. Not the RT. Hardy Nickerson? Where did that come from? He was a MLB.

Wut?

ThaVirus · 07-13-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

He still has a lot to prove and is overrated in coverage IMO. Stats aren't everything

I agree. You also have to take into account the overall affect the player has on the defense.

At it's peak with Houston healthy, our defense is one of the best in the league. When he doesn't play, our defense can be downright horrid.

aturnis · 07-13-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

It beats the other Chiefs forums by a long shot.

This actually has a personality. The others don't.

I agree, but it still lacks football content, even during football season. It used to be a LOT different. Used to be way for football discussion.

I think the Q police and lovers of mega threads are what have done it.

Condense all discussion into a thread so big you can't keep tabs on news, or an honest discussion.

**Rausch** · 07-13-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

None of those guys played LOLB. DT and DB played against the LT. Not the RT. Hardy Nickerson? Where did that come from? He was a MLB.

An amalgamation.

Look it up...

aturnis · 07-13-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

Gator, a $100 million Contact is a $100 million contract. Break it down anyway you want. We aren't doing that. If he wants $100 million he will get it somewhere else. Chiefs fans over hype this guy. There is a reason the players voted him #27 in the top 100. He is really good but he's a LOLB. He's not even the best player on our team. If you are going to pay a LBer in the top ten players in the league then he better be revolutionizing the game or something. No one has ever done that in the salary cap age. Prepare to be let down if he wants that kind of money

22 sacks from the left side is revolutionary. Typically the best pass rusher plays the right side, to give him the advantage of coming in unseen. QB's see Houston coming and he still thrives.

On top of that, he's not only a STUD pass rusher, he's a great run defender and a top 5 OLB in coverage. THERE ISN'T A OLB CLOSE TO AS TALENTED.

You're not paying for a position, you're paying for the impact.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 06:08 PM

Last thing I'll say about this tonight... I live in Georgia. All my friends are Georgia fans. They sll like the Chiefs because they have so many Georgia players. None of them think he should get Watt money. No one thinks he is in the argument for the best player in the league. He's a good player but it's not a done deal. There is just no way we will pay him that much. I don't think he could get it unless he played on the right side. If he does it again and gets twenty sacks?
Then just maybe he will get that kind of deal.

**Bowser** · 07-13-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

If that were true he wouldn't have had twenty sacks. He wants to be paid as a pass rusher. That is his argument for Watt money. Coverage isn't even relevant. If Sutton dropped him back more than other pass rushers, he would be on the street.

You need to stop acting like you know football. Because you don't. And you're dumb. Likely smelly, as well.

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MGM Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Casino cash: $10002900	Last thing I'll say about this tonight... I live in Georgia. All my friends are Georgia fans. They sll like the Chiefs because they have so many Georgia players. None of them think he should get Watt money. No one thinks he is in the argument for the best player in the league. He's a good player but it's not a done deal. There is just no way we will pay him that much. I don't think he could get it unless he played on the right side. If he does it again and gets twenty sacks? Then just maybe he will get that kind of deal.
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