When does Smith lose the team?

[petegz28]

In his defense the play calling the last few weeks, particularly on 3rd down has been the worst I have ever seen. Also, the OLine can't block a good HS team right now for shit.

That being said, he is consistently bailing out way too early and missing way too many open receivers. The times where he needs to just let the ball fly and see what happens stopped after game 5.

So to the point, watch the int at the end of the Bills game and look at Kelce's reaction. Typical to a point but after the calling out after the Giants loss, you have to wonder when the offense is going to start tearing itself apart?

On the last 2 drives of the Bills game, he missed a wide open Wilson for 4 yards on 4th and 4 and went deep to Hill and threw incomplete. Then on the last play of the game for KC, Kelce is open and he threw into double coverage.

I think there are a lot of reasons for a civil war on the offense, from the coaching, to play calling to blocking ...but Smith has shit his pants the last several games and even those who have tried to defend him can no longer do it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

And if I remember correctly, we had lost 6 straight games until we benched Grbac and went to Gannon.

Interesting... a QB change makes a difference even if the entire team isn't playing well.

You taking notes, Baby Lee?

I don't recall benching Grbac. I recall him getting hurt with a dislocated shoulder. Am I thinking of a different season?

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

EXACTLY

The team wants Mahomes to start but they can’t come out and say it and that is what is wrong and until that happens this team will be in a psychological funk until that quarterback change occurs.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

When they played the Steelers.

Money Shot

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't recall benching Grbac. I recall him getting hurt with a dislocated shoulder. Am I thinking of a different season?

You are correct. Grbac back went out due to injury Gannon comes in and this offense is just on fire but Marty believed in the you don’t lose your position due to injury regardless of the hot hand and that’s what kept us from going to the Super Bowl.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

The team wants Mahomes to start but they can’t come out and say it and that is what is wrong and until that happens this team will be in a psychological funk until that quarterback change occurs.

Yep! Robinson said as much last week. Paraphrasing here. He said something to the effect that we know what the problem is, but we are not allowed to say anything about it.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

The team wants Mahomes to start but they can’t come out and say it and that is what is wrong and until that happens this team will be in a psychological funk until that quarterback change occurs.

Look at Buffalo. Even if it ends up being the wrong decision, it could be the right one. The Bills started Peterman last week and he threw five interceptions. Taylor started today and played well. I'd start him next week and see what happens. If we lose and Mahommes plays bad, we are .500 and you give the job back To Alice and hope it motivates him.

[petegz28]

I don't think a blind man would miss as many open receivers as Smith missed today

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

Look at Buffalo. Even if it ends up being the wrong decision, it could be the right one. The Bills started Peterman last week and he threw five interceptions. Taylor started today and played well. I'd start him next week and see what happens. If we lose and Mahommes plays bad, we are .500 and you give the job back To Alice and hope it motivates him.

Clearly McDermott wasn’t going with Peterman long-term and I think clearly he was sending a message to Taylor to step up his game. Now with that said Mahomes is far more talented than Peterman and if you put Mahomes in there that is a whole different situation that you cannot reverse. Which is all right by me whether he plays bad or good because this season is done.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Yep! Robinson said as much last week. Paraphrasing here. He said something to the effect that we know what the problem is, but we are not allowed to say anything about it.

Did not know that. Interesting.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Clearly McDermott wasn’t going with Peterman long-term and I think clearly he was sending a message to Taylor to step up his game. Now with that said Mahomes is far more talented than Peterman and if you put Mahomes in there that is a whole different situation that you cannot reverse. Which is all right by me whether he plays bad or good because this season is done.

I think you could have still ran Mahomes out there at the half, or at any point in the second half today, and came back with "Alex is still our starter next week at the Jets" and almost had more credibility no matter what happened when Mahomes was in the game. Win, lose, or draw.

[KChiefs1]

The Pittsburgh game or the Dallas game.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I think you could have still ran Mahomes out there at the half, or at any point in the second half today, and came back with "Alex is still our starter next week at the Jets" and almost had more credibility no matter what happened when Mahomes was in the game. Win, lose, or draw.

Dude I am with you but the front office and Andy know just how lethal and heroin additive like Mahomes is to the Fanbase and if Mahomes throws two or three TDs in the second half and just lights Buffalo up and we win how in the world do you go back to Alex Smith at that point?

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Dude I am with you but the front office and Andy know just how lethal and heroin additive like Mahomes is to the Fanbase and if Mahomes throws two or three TDs in the second half and just lights Buffalo up and we win how in the world do you go back to Alex Smith at that point?

If that's why they didn't play Mahomes... what if he throws 2 or 3 TD's and we win... then Andy needs to go too!

[Chiefshrink]

Dungy just defended Alex Smith saying if he was Alex Smith he would go into Andy’s office and demand that Andy put him in a position to win games!

[Chief Roundup]

It was reported that Peters and Kelce left the locker room before reporters were allowed in for interviews. Might have been a good thing if they have lost faith in Smith.