Chiefs KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis - Page 8

KCJohnny · 11:20 PM

GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding.
　
HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ).

QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar?

Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7.

Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already.

Prediction: 5-11, last place.

Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer.

Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4.

Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4.

Go Chiefs!

KCJohnny}

**DaFace** · 09-05-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

No, he generated the animosity long before DC even existed.

Huh. Guess I just haven't paid much attention then.

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You should go back and read your posts more often...

I did; they're brilliant. Thanks for the idea. I should go to you for entertainment recommendations more often.

kstater · 09-05-2009, 02:21 PM

I'll give KCJ credit, he only referenced his military service once in his 5 posts.

Deberg_1990 · 09-05-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

When KCJ said in a recent thread that "People will be wishing Carl was back" ... or something to that effect ... I just .... UGH.

There are alot of fans out there that long for the Carl and Marty days of 10-6.

Ebolapox · 09-05-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'll give KCJ credit, he only referenced his military service once in his 5 posts.

another n00b who knows nothing about what he's talking about.

I'd say in his posting history, it's once in every five posts during his history on the internet.

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

another n00b who knows nothing about what he's talking about.

I'd say in his posting history, it's once in every five posts during his history on the internet.

kstater meant in his 5 posts in this thread

keg in kc · 09-05-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

another n00b who knows nothing about what he's talking about.

I'd say in his posting history, it's once in every five posts during his history on the internet.

I think that was his point.

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

another n00b who knows nothing about what he's talking about.

I'd say in his posting history, it's once in every five posts during his history on the internet.

quick question: why does it bother people that he brings up his military history?

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

quick question: why does it bother people that he brings up his military history?

Because he does it constantly and he thinks that he is above all criticism for anything because of his service. Its not honorable behavior.

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Because he does it constantly and he thinks that he is above all criticism for anything because of his service. Its not honorable behavior.

thanks, i can see this point of view. it's honorable to serve, BUT that shouldnt be used as an excuse for being an idiot

JuicesFlowing · 09-05-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

GM moves The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already. [/SIZE]

Prediction: 5-11, last place.

"They will finish last, but also will have a chance to win the division, just covering my tracks!" ????????

keg in kc · 09-05-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

quick question: why does it bother people that he brings up his military history?

It's a matter of how he does it, rather than because he does it. There's a lot of vets on the board, he's the only one that's ever caused any problems in that way that I'm aware of. Even other vets have spoken up about it, criticizing him.

He can rub people the wrong way about pretty much anything, though, whether it's military service, politics, football, or anything else. He's a very pompous guy who's extremely condescending to anybody who doesn't see things exactly his way. He's also passive-aggressive, and after he draws out any kind of reaction with the variety of standard insults he likes to throw out, he curls up in a ball and accuses everybody of piling on him and making it personal instead of sticking to whatever the topic happens to be. Usually by throwing out the Planet Party Line (PPL). He apparently likes to look at himself as some kind of martyr against the evil online world.

It's been going on for years and years and years, same script, over and over ad nauseum.

kstater · 09-05-2009, 02:42 PM

Some excellent reading material here Jason:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=108038

A quick excerpt:

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

You are a queer pathetic type to call me out as an OIF vet with 150 combat patrols. You have the PAIR to go to Iraq and face down the terrorists? DO IT. Until then,

and stop calling me out. As far as NFL football, I SHOWED UP. as far as defending your country, YOU groew a PAIR and YOU show up.

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's a matter of how he does it, rather than because he does it. There's a lot of vets on the board, he's the only one that's ever caused any problems in that way that I'm aware of. Even other vets have spoken up about it, criticizing him.

He can rub people the wrong way about pretty much anything, though, whether it's military service, politics, football, or anything else. He's a very pompous guy who's extremely condescending to anybody who doesn't see things exactly his way. He's also passive-aggressive, and after he draws out any kind of reaction with the variety of standard insults he likes to throw out, he curls up in a ball and accuses everybody of piling on him and making it personal instead of sticking to whatever the topic happens to be. Usually by throwing out the Planet Party Line (PPL). He apparently likes to look at himself as some kind of martyr against the evil online world.

It's been going on for years and years and years, same script, over and over ad nauseum.

thanks. that would get annoying.

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Some excellent reading material here Jason:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=108038

A quick excerpt:

thanks i'll give it a reading

09-04-2009, 10:45 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding. 　 HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ). QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar? Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7. Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already. Prediction: 5-11, last place. Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer. Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4. Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4. Go Chiefs! KCJohnny} Last edited by KCJohnny; 09-04-2009 at 11:20 PM.. Reason: sp
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