Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 19

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

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Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

**Slainte** · 01-14-2010, 12:37 PM

Am I alone in my utter disdain about how much money Cassel makes? Like I give a fat **** where he ranks on the sliding scale of pro athletes! It's not screwing up the salary cap. It's not my money. If Clark Hunt wants to give him large green, let him...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-14-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Rodgers got a 6-year $65M extension in 2008.
Romo got a 6-year $67.5M extension in 2007.

Cassel's contract is 6-year $63M.

Dear God, people.

We're talking about 2009 SALARY.

Not ****ing contracts.

Base salary + all applicable bonuses = TOTAL SALARY.

Mr. Laz · 01-14-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

The fact that we're even TALKING about this is EPIC FAIL.

only if you are looking for a reason to bitch.

we trade for veteran(if slightly inexperienced) quarterback for cheap and then (apparently) gave him a long term contract that has an out clause in case it didn't work out.

now what if the **** is wrong with that?

no patience and the desire to bitch

stevieray · 01-14-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Because the question is pointless.

.

pointless?

BS.

...it's exactly what you are doing...yet, it's not up to you.

Deberg_1990 · 01-14-2010, 12:38 PM

Any guess on who the ex Pat was JWhit consulted with for this?

Ty Law perhaps?

**HemiEd** · 01-14-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Luckily I think both Weis and Crennel are on board early enough to evaluate college players, attend or review the combine, and have open communication with KC's scouts.
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This is a very good thing, I am stoked about both of the hires. I loved watching the last Chiefs team put together by a Coach wearing a SB ring.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who said anything about the contract?

We're talking 2009 salary.

I need to look at his #s

How does his 2010, 2011 money stack up?

By then it probably won't be that close at all considering those guy you named such as Romo, Rodgers, and others, will have new deals in place paying them WAY more than Cassel.

Molitoth · 01-14-2010, 12:40 PM

Jwhit was rooting for the Lionization of the Chiefs. It's more job security for the bitch and moan media market.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-14-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i believe that Cassel's deal is pretty friendly to cutting him next year.

IIRC he's got a secondary bonus coming up next year or the year after. It's several million i think.

$7M roster bonus due (IIRC) March 1st of 2011.

Which is why his third year makes the deal worth something like $43M paid over the first 3 years of the contract.

There's no way Pioli cuts him after 2010, regardless of performance.

And I PRAY I'm wrong on this one.

Chiefnj2 · 01-14-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yet, we signed nothing but scrubs.

Just a coincidence, eh?

How many millions did the Chiefs have in salary cap space? They didn't come close to spending it all.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God, people.

We're talking about 2009 SALARY.

Not ****ing contracts.

Base salary + all applicable bonuses = TOTAL SALARY.

Contract be damned. That might change the entire argument.

Good thing their annual salaries weren't dictated by the contract.

His salary was $15M this year.
14 of which was guaranteed to him by his former franchise when they used the tag on him.

**1ChiefsDan** · 01-14-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

who determines what a QB is worth? isn't there a going rate for starters at every position?

Exatly. I just don't get the hang up everyone has with the salary. They could have paid hime $10M and it wouldn't have changed anything. Tickets wouldn't be cheaper, conessions wouldn't be cheaper, he wouldn't have played different....

We paid market price for a commodity. It all comes back to some people just needing to bitch about everything. We paid market price - BOO. CP always tried to low ball players - BOO. It's not my money - I don't care what Hunt pays the players.

Mr. Laz · 01-14-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Jwhit was rooting for the Lionization of the Chiefs. It's more job security for the bitch and moan media market.

very possible

if the Chiefs become successful again he might actually have to work at writing a column instead of just bitching like a little child about everything that happens.

i imagine that fatassed ****er doesn't likes the idea of having to work.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

$7M roster bonus due (IIRC) March 1st of 2011.

Which is why his third year makes the deal worth something like $43M paid over the first 3 years of the contract.

There's no way Pioli cuts him after 2010, regardless of performance.

And I PRAY I'm wrong on this one.

I think after bringing in Weis, There is no way Pioli gives him that $ if he plays like he did this year. The Pats never seemed to have a problem with dumping a player that isn't earning his dough.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-14-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not sold on Cassel (I thought the contract was premature too), but I'd like to see how he performs with a better setup. He faced some pretty long odds that I think might've frustrated more talented QB's.

I thought he showed some solid leadership qualities over the first half of the season. As it worn on...I think he lost a lot of confidence and pressed way too hard.

I missed this earlier.

We have a pretty good idea of how he'll perform with a better setup, because he had it last year - it's likely his peak, statistically.

Solid stats on the surface, that when analyzed further, see that he can't complete passes over 10 yards regularly, even when given the benefit of the best deep threat in the game, and the best possession WR in the game. His entire game revolves on dumping the ball off, and hoping the WR/RB can break it.

And regarding leadership, I disagree. That stunt he pulled with Albert wasn't something a leader does on the field.

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