I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[Three7s]

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

t-o-m cash is a d-bag

Are you aware that your opinion has no impact on anything other that the shit in your mouth?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Are you aware that your opinion has no impact on anything other that the shit in your mouth?

tom, we all think you're a d-bag

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

tom, we all think you're a d-bag

I doubt that but your opinions still mean nothing. I guess you think more of your opinion than I do.

Good luck with that.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I doubt that but your opinions still mean nothing. I guess you think more of your opinion than I do.

Good luck with that.

tom

















d-bag

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You would lose that bet, but don't let facts deter you.

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 153 96 62.7 1350 8.82 88 11 0 15 115.1 225
2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 8.00 52 15 7 17 104.9 180
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 8.95 59 19 8 22 102.9 327
4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 7.16 65 17 4 13 98.8 242
5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 7.79 71 10 3 12 97.6 136
6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 158 99 62.7 1304 8.25 53 9 4 12 97.1 261
7 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 350 217 62.0 2806 8.02 71 16 5 21 96.4 312
8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 213 148 69.5 1605 7.54 69 11 7 7 94.9 268
9 Matt Cassel, QB KC 267 158 59.2 1881 7.05 53 16 4 15 94.5 209
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 386 248 64.2 2663 6.90 73 16 4 12 93.9 296

Cassel is not as bad as you think. What are you going to do if he does happen to get the Chiefs into the playoffs? or further?

Basically my point is that none of the people proclaiming to know what is going on doesn't have a clue. If they did I'm sure they wouldn't sitting their ass talking shit on the internet.

Your list is very accurate. Anyone who watches football knows that David Gerrard is better than Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan and on and on and on.

How about this. Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Thigpen played better than any of the QB's we had on the team when he was promoted. Cassel is not as bad as you want him to be.

Fans like you kept Carl Peterson in power for 20 years.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Hell, Bono even had decent games LOL!!!

But he got to play full seasons with the same OC, Cassel hasn't had that luxury. He's had 3 in KC alone and that is in 2 years.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Your list is very accurate. Anyone who watches football knows that David Gerrard is better than Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan and on and on and on.

How about this. Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?

As I don't really have a choice it's a moot question. Regardless of who I would pick we would still have Cassel. All I can really do is hope that he get's his game on and if he stays in KC that he does the job we need. If he doesn't stay in KC then it again is a moot point.

As it is we have Cassel and some also rans. We are not getting anyone on the list this year. I don't think worrying about it is something that will help me, the Chiefs or anyone else.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

As I don't really have a choice it's a moot question. Regardless of who I would pick we would still have Cassel. All I can really do is hope that he get's his game on and if he stays in KC that he does the job we need. If he doesn't stay in KC then it again is a moot point.

As it is we have Cassel and some also rans. We are not getting anyone on the list this year. I don't think worrying about it is something that will help me, the Chiefs or anyone else.

I'm sure Colts fans would give a similar answer to this.

Cassel is a top QB but I can't name anyone he's better than!!

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm sure Colts fans would give a similar answer to this.

Cassel is a top QB but I can't name anyone he's better than!!

I didn't say there weren't any better, per your question: [b]Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?]/b] it is pointless as we have Cassel and none of the top 20, other than Cassel are coming to KC this year and most likely next.

Why spend the energy wishing for something that will never happen?

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I didn't say there weren't any better, per your question: [b]Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?]/b] it is pointless as we have Cassel and none of the top 20, other than Cassel are coming to KC this year and most likely next.

Why spend the energy wishing for something that will never happen?

Who is Cassel better than? You said he's a top 10 QB and you won't tell anyone who he's better than.

I'll rank him.

1-28
29. Cassel
30. Fitzpatrick
31. Arizona QB of the week
32. Carolina QB of the week.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Of course it is, but in those games even poor QB play is enough to win it.

I was just going to read through the thread from the last post, but I had to stop here and comment.

We don't agree on much, but damn, you are smarter than this.

[LaChapelle]

Cassel threw for 300 yards in the second half sunday
his entire game average must have been about 150
I hope this gives him the confidence to throw with conviction

['Hamas' Jenkins]

"I don't think that 28 year old Matt Cassel has had enough time to properly develop (in his 6th year in the NFL with 39 starts under his belt)."

"I think it's obvious that Mark Sanchez and Jimmy Clausen aren't franchise material."

Ok...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Micjones

There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel.
It's either extreme right or extreme left.

There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target.
The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate?

Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long.

I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it...
And praise him when he deserves it.

QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week.
It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely.

I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely.

He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year.

He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's.
And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due.

I gave credit to Cassel against Oakland, and said that he made enough plays to win that game, and that Bowe, and the defense let him down.

But I can not give him credit for game against the Donkeys.

Even if there have been some QBs that have done poorly against prevent defenses, that is just an indictment of those QBs.

There is no reason that a decent backup shouldn't be able to play well against a prevent.

And our backup starter did what he was supposed to be able to do.