Manning or Orton?

[Titty Meat]

Let's assume the Chiefs win another game or 2 putting them further back in the draft order. We know it's unlikely they will trade up to draft a QB as their past is well documented on here. Say you're the GM would you A. Re-sign Orton or B. Enter the Peyton Manning sweepstakes (guessing Manning will most likely be released and become a free agent).

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I'm sure Brady is available and represents the Patriot way.

Yep for a 2nd and a 5th brady can be had.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by doomy3

If we were talking about who we would rather sign on the FA market, then it's Manning. But the Colts aren't going to just release Manning. He will cost at least 2 first rounders IMO. Carson Palmer just cost the Raiders a first and a second at the minimum. No way in hell that Manning doesn't bring at least that. So I would rather draft a QB and sign Orton as a stop gap.

IIRC they have to release him, or pay him 28 million.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Beaten a lot of SB champs, have they?

The 2000 season, KC 54, St. Louis 34.

So yeah, we've seen this before.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

IIRC they have to release him, or pay him 28 million.

Well, likely what would happen is that Manning would have to restructure his deal prior to the new year. If the Colts are going to draft Luck and Manning agrees to restructure his deal, then they'll be able to trade him. Of course in this scenario, he will have a ton of leverage on where he's willing to be traded.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Well, likely what would happen is that Manning would have to restructure his deal prior to the new year. If the Colts are going to draft Luck and Manning agrees to restructure his deal, then they'll be able to trade him. Of course in this scenario, he will have a ton of leverage on where he's willing to be traded.

The ball is in Manning's court. I believe they owe him 28 mil or so the first day of the new league year which is before the draft. If Manning doesn't budge, they'd have to release him and Manning could do his own bidding on where he wants to go. Manning isn't going to allow the Colts to decide where he goes. Plus, the only place Manning is going is to a network studio.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The ball is in Manning's court. I believe they owe him 28 mil or so the first day of the new league year which is before the draft. If Manning doesn't budge, they'd have to release him and Manning could do his own bidding on where he wants to go. Manning isn't going to allow the Colts to decide where he goes. Plus, the only place Manning is going is to a network studio.

I guess we'll see. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him restructure his deal and then call the shots on who he's traded to.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The ball is in Manning's court. I believe they owe him 28 mil or so the first day of the new league year which is before the draft. If Manning doesn't budge, they'd have to release him and Manning could do his own bidding on where he wants to go. Manning isn't going to allow the Colts to decide where he goes. Plus, the only place Manning is going is to a network studio.

Eh, I don't know? You may be right, but I don't see him as the type to just hang em up. I think he is going to give it another shot.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

The 2000 season, KC 54, St. Louis 34.

So yeah, we've seen this before.

1. You realize that's 11 years ago, right.

2. That was nothing like yesterday's game. For better or worse the 2000 Chiefs' identity was known. The question, known to all beforehand, was whether The Greatest Show on Turf could face our smashmouth defense on our turf. This year the O-line has looked like ass a great deal of the time, but we weren't sure whether it was on the O-line itself or the pocket presence and release time of the QB. Yesterday they certainly gave Orton the time to operate the way he operates.

I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement, but its not the dire need for complete teardown and rebuild you seem to think.

[Red Brooklyn]

While we're all dreaming and playing the "what if?" game.... here's another completely hypothetical and silly question:

If Peyton retires, and he wants to coach immediately for some reason (I know, it's just a game, have fun and play along) would you want to see the Chiefs take him on in some capacity - QB coach or even OC?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

If Peyton retires, and he wants to coach immediately for some reason (I know, it's just a game, have fun and play along) would you want to see the Chiefs take him on in some capacity - QB coach or even OC?

Because he's done such a good job with the backups in Indy.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Phobia

The only way I'm interested in Manning is if he's coming here to mentor our 1st round QB for 2 years and is given a clean bill of health.

That's two.

[Bump]

Manning on this team = insta Superbowl

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Frankie

That's two.

He's describing a path to acceptability, not a singular demand.

You can 'only be interested' premised on one, two or a bajillion preconditions.

[Okie_Apparition]

Indy needs to rebuild & I doubt the offense under Manning is the same as they'd have for Luck
that 28+ million for Peyton's salary could buy some nice toys

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Dave

I'd keep Orton.

I really have zero interest in playing a 36 yr old QB with a neck issue. Even if it is one of the best QBs ever.

He's not e of the best ever. He's barely in the conversation compared to Graham, Elway, Montana, Unitis, and Baugh. The changed the rules of the game so this guy could even compete.