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View Poll Results: If Pioli takes a QB in the late 1st or 2nd, my opinion of him would be...
I still hate him regardless 9 5.84%
It depends entirely on the QB taken 64 41.56%
I like him better because at least he gave it a shot at drafting a QB 73 47.40%
I only have eyes for Gaz 8 5.19%
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:09 AM  
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If this happens, your opinion of Pioli would be...
OK let's say Pioli is NOT convinced that Cassel is the only QB for us but can't work out a trade UP for RGIII or Luck. He looks at the free agents and decides they are stop gaps at best. SO...

He either trades way DOWN in the first round and picks a QB (slight reach) or he takes a QB in the second round.

Would that significantly change your opinion of Pioli?

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:47 PM   #76
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Well, Denver got a first round QB without drafting him. So did the Giants. Both examples are in my reply. So his statement is wrong either way.
I acknowledged that he was wrong.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:47 PM   #77
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I disagree wholeheartedly.
people were saying they wanted someone to build from the draft too and pioli is and they are still pissed.

some of the guys are still pissed because they wanted the cali boy.


most will be pissed no matter what unless they win.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:48 PM   #78
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Well, Denver got a first round QB without drafting him. So did the Giants. Both examples are in my reply. So his statement is wrong either way.
But you are wrong about the Giants.

They did draft a first round QB, they simply exchanged theirs for the Chargers.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:52 PM   #79
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But you are wrong about the Giants.

They did draft a first round QB, they simply exchanged theirs for the Chargers.
True, but they didn't get the one they drafted.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:11 PM   #80
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I went with "it depends entirely on the quarterback taken" option. If we take someone like say Barkley, I'll be pleased to see they are trying to address the situation. At the same time I'll be pissed they wasted a pick on a friggen' USC QB.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:19 PM   #81
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I went with "it depends entirely on the quarterback taken" option. If we take someone like say Barkley, I'll be pleased to see they are trying to address the situation. At the same time I'll be pissed they wasted a pick on a friggen' USC QB.
Assume you are talking about next year?
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:43 PM   #82
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Assume you are talking about next year?

Heh, I forgot, he decided to stay in college another year. My bad.

But you get the point.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:33 AM   #83
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

If Pioli were to land Luck or RG3
That's a HUGE "if." I'd be hard pressed to assume that both RGIII and Luck will be available for pick-up after the 5th and 6th picks in the first round.

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If KC winds up with either QB, the fanbase will embrace him and Pioli's hands are completely clean.
Say all you want. But, having a 7-9 record doesn't guarantee a great shot at one of the best rookie prospect QB's in the draft. Either way, I am not embracing Pioli until the Chiefs have at least made it to the AFC Championship round of the playoffs, which they haven't done since 1994. They need to win a playoff game before many of us can say anything positive about Pioli.

Winning one's division (10-6), and then choking in the AFC wildcard game isn't much improvement when the franchise has been win-less in the playoffs since 1995. The Chiefs should have Marty Schottenheimer as the Offensive Coordinator, someone similar to Todd Haley as the Offensive Line Coach, and maybe John Gruden as the Defensive Coordinator (this is just a hypothesis). Some might hate, but the Chiefs have yet to win in the playoffs since Schottenheimer's departure in the late 90's.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:57 AM   #84
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Not my point. People are making assumptions based only on their negativity with no rational and realistic reason to believe that, and then claiming it as fact. We do not know what Pioli plans to do with the QB position. That is the only fact.
He has done exactly squat.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:43 AM   #85
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He has done exactly squat.
It is a better team than when he took over. By quite a bit.
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It is a better team than when he took over. By quite a bit.
Yep.

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Pioli did a great job drafting these guys...
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:52 AM   #87
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:56 AM   #88
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It is a better team than when he took over. By quite a bit.
Let's see if your statement holds up:

2009

Scott Pioli hired as Chiefs' new General Manager in 2009, brought in former Patriots Defensive Coordinator Romeo Cremmel to be the Chiefs' new DC, and former Arizona Cardinals OC as Head Coach. Haley fired pre-season OC just before the 2009-2010 season began; did double duty as Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.

Result: Chiefs finished at 4-12.

2010

Scott Pioli appointed former Notre Dame Head Coach Charlie Weis as the Chiefs' new Offensive Coordinator, kept Haley as Head Coach and Crennel as DC.

Result: Chiefs finished at 10-6, winning the AFC West. Unfortunately, they were upset by the Colts in the first round of the playoffs.

2011

After Weis moved to Miami to coach college football again, Pioli approved Todd Haley's decision to hire Mike Muir to be the Chiefs' third regular season offensive coordinator in four years (not counting the year Todd Haley was both the HC and OC). Prior to the regular season, Muir had not called an offensive play professionally.

Result: Chiefs finished at 7-9, with 8 of those losses being under HC Todd Haley. Despite their efforts in defeating the Broncos in week 17, it wasn't enough to knock them out of the playoffs since the Raiders lost their final season game in the process.

Final Review: Scott Pioli has tons of improving before showing himself worthy of being a better GM than Carl Peterson.
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Crennel was hired in 2010 not 09. And we lost to the ravens in the playoffs, not the colts.
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