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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM  
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Mark Cassell sucks!

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Old 08-01-2012, 10:51 AM   #1426
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I think Stephenson is our LTOFT. He has been holding his own against Hali from reports. He needs a season to bulk up. McCluster and Quinn had higher reps I believe.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:51 AM   #1427
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Acceptable for Cassel to dick around and do nothing?
Did nothing but lead the game winning drive....haha
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:52 AM   #1428
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@St Louis and against Tennessee also were pretty good.

Ballahz.
Ah that is correct.

So a total of 4 games if you include the SF 49ers game.

So another words you have 3 shit teams from the NFCWorst division (STL, SEA, SF) and a horrible Titans team. 4 ****ing games since he's been a Chief, that Cassel has played well in.

Bravo!!!
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:52 AM   #1429
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You wanna know why the defense was on the field to permit a potential game winning drive?

BECAUSE CASSEL WENT THREE AND OUT.
Int he 2nd half of that game we had the ball 6 times and went without a 3rd down on 3 posessions.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #1430
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This is just it. You don't care. You want to place all fail of this team on Cassel and place all success of this team on everyone but Cassel. That's pretty objective.
That's the thing. Technically Cassel is NEVER responsible for losses because he does a good job avoiding turnovers and not making the game-losing play.

If he doesn't deserve any blame in the losses, then he sure as **** doesn't deserve any credit in the wins.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #1431
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I think Stephenson is our LTOFT. He has been holding his own against Hali from reports. He needs a season to bulk up. McCluster and Quinn had higher reps I believe.
It has to be so ****ing cool to go to HS in Blue Springs growing up a Chiefs fan and then getting drafted by that team. Kid has to be living the dream now.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #1432
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You know Cassel is having a great camp when all of the bitching about him is limited to last years play.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #1433
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Did nothing but lead the game winning drive....haha
After the gods smiled on him.

Story of Cassel's lucky bullshit career.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:54 AM   #1434
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You know Cassel is having a great camp when all of the bitching about him is limited to last years play.
No it's just every new training camp report contradicts someone else's previous report.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:55 AM   #1435
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Made it up to camp last night. I'm no pro scout, but I have grown up in the game so I feel I can offer some half informed insight. Here are some things I saw:



1: Probably the most talked about guy in camp this year is Jon Baldwin. I was excited to see him practice in person and was immediately impressed. I hadn't realized just how big this guy is until I saw him standing with the other wideouts. He even makes some of the TE's look small. To say Baldwin has dedicated himself to becoming a top-notch WR this offseason is, to me, an understatement. The guy is pure intensity. My brother made a good observation in saying that Jon was the Tamba on the offensive side of the ball...giving 200%, 100% of the time. He literally yelled (or growled) every time he took off on his routes, and was practicing at game speed. The coaches LOVE this guy and are constantly high fiving and praising his play. To say he's going to have a monster year is probably dead on.

2: OL observations: Jeff Allen and Donald Stephenson will both start for this team eventually. Jeff Allen has solid footwork and great upper body strength. I saw him stalemate guys right and left. Stephenson, while not as ready as Allen, is going to be a good player. He's constantly taking pointers from Albert and Winston. I saw him get schooled by Tamba, who slapped his hands away and slipped around him...he then was talking with Winston about something and Winston was demonstrating technique. Stephenson then went up against Hali again and was able to apply what Winston had just taught him and win. I know some people were talking about Winston just looking like another guy out there, but to me he was all that is advertised. His kick/slide footwork in pass protection was superb and he has great feel in run blocking.

3: DL observations. Poe is going to be special. He made 2 big plays consecutively during the OL-DL run portion. The first play, Poe blew up a doubleteam and split the blockers to stop Cyrus Gray in the backfield. The other guys on the D were slapping his helmet and telling him great job. I met Poe after the practice and he was a super nice guy...calling me 'big fella' even though he's got about 150 lbs on me. Tyson Jackson looks determined to be better again this season and was working his ass off.

4: QB's. I can't believe I'm saying this, and couldn't last night either, but Cassel looks MUCH better. I don't know if it's the system, DaBoll, or what...but he seems confident and is actually accurate. In all phases of practice he threw strikes. One TD throw to Breaston was probably better than any throw I've ever seen Cassel make. It was an out route and the DB had Breaston pretty much blanketed. Cassel threw the ball to Breaston's outside shoulder, just over the pylon, the only place that the DB couldn't get to it. Steve made a great catch and got two feet in for the TD. DaBoll went just as nuts as the other offensive players did. Cassel might be in for a big year if this translates to the game field. Stanzi and Quinn both had their moments in practice, but overall I think both of them were slightly off last night. Quinn is pretty inaccurate and you hold your breath every time he throws a deep one. Stanzi has probably the best footwork and mechanics of the entire group and throws a pretty ball. He had a few off target and some that were just dropped by receivers.

5: Other observations. Berry looks like Berry. Defense is going to be legit. Tamba, DJ and Houston all look like beasts. Syler will probably see substantial playing time. Colquitt punted a ball 80 yards in the air. Colquitt also punted a ball that bounced into the stands and I caught it. None of the players cared that I wanted to keep it, but the douchebag ball boy asked me to throw it back. I did, and was booed by the crowd. Should have kept it. Ripoti Patuitary Gland or whatever his name is, #77, is a BEAST of a man. He is very quick for his size as well. I could see him being a big contributor if Romeo and Pleasant can get him coached up.

Overall I had a great time at practice, and it was great to see these guys back in action. I was excited for the season before yesterday, but now I can't wait to see this team on the game field. Easily the most talent I've ever seen on a Chiefs practice field.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:56 AM   #1436
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That's the thing. Technically Cassel is NEVER responsible for losses because he does a good job avoiding turnovers and not making the game-losing play.

If he doesn't deserve any blame in the losses, then he sure as **** doesn't deserve any credit in the wins.
No one said he doesn't deserve some of the blame. In some cases he does more than others. Same goes for wins. What I am saying is some here want to blame him and only him for the losses and spite him for all the wins. You can't have it both ways. There are times win the loss lands more on Cassels shoulders than others. There are times when a loss lies squarely on the defense more than others. We can go round-round about this but that isn't the point.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:56 AM   #1437
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No it's just every new training camp report contradicts someone else's previous report.
Not true. It's pretty much universal that Cassel is doing well.
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Int he 2nd half of that game we had the ball 6 times and went without a 3rd down on 3 posessions.
Cassel played like shit.
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No one said he doesn't deserve some of the blame. In some cases he does more than others. Same goes for wins. What I am saying is some here want to blame him and only him for the losses and spite him for all the wins. You can't have it both ways. There are times win the loss lands more on Cassels shoulders than others. There are times when a loss lies squarely on the defense more than others. We can go round-round about this but that isn't the point.
Agreed. The point is that Cassel basically never beats teams that are good.

Let's root hard for him, though.
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Agreed. The point is that Cassel basically never beats teams that are good.

Let's root hard for him, though.
Yeah you might as well root hard for him because he is our QB whether we like it or not.
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