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Here's something I didn't expect: remember Colin Brown?
Hilariously terrible 5th round selection by Scott ***** in the famed horrific 2009 draft class?
Something like the 57th rated tackle that year? He just got a two-year extension with the Buffalo Bills, who play him at guard but really like him at center: Quote:
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A few starters, a couple reserves, and a few busts. We forget that because we've been repeating the "2009 was an abortion!" mantra for four years. But it wasn't, at least not the draft. The biggest crime of the 2009 draft was trading the high 2nd for Matt Cassel, who basically single-handedly torpedoed this franchise for four years while ***** played the fiddle. Getting pissed off at that decision is 100% understandable. And if you believe that poisoned the well against the rest of the draft, that's also 100% understandable. But calling the other picks total garbage is pretty much deadwrong. This team has had some extremely good drafting over the past half-decade that we forget what an average draft looks like. Check out some of the Vermeil drafts if you want to see an organization shit itself at the draft. |
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He can hardly be blamed for the shit offensive line job he had to undertake. But I will say he has himself to blame for the gargantuan task he gave himself for deciding to turn the smallest front seven in the NFL (Herm's Cover 2) into a radically different 2-gap 3-4, which demands the biggest front seven in the NFL. |
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We've been having this stupid discussion for four years now.
*****'s drafts were not good, and when you cite Javier Arenas as examples of "hits," that's all the proof your opposition needs.
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Seriously. The entire 2009 draft is worthless outside Ryan Succop.
Not a single player who deserves to be on our roster, including Tyson Jackson, the 30th rated DE in the NFL. And that's average? GTFO.
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That's average in the NFL. You'd like to do better than that, seeing how that's what wins in the NFL. But an average draft isn't garbage. It's average. |
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I just got done explaining to you: there are 0 starters from that draft.
There's one reserve, and he was the #3 pick.
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The team won two ****ing games last year, and it would have won zero if not for the 2008 draft class.
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09 an average class? I've heard it all now, haha.
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All three are/were starting caliber players at their positions. O'Connell and Brown are still usable reserves in the NFL. Williams, Lawrence, and Magee were total busts. All of this is not a big screaming deal, until you get to trading the 2nd away for Cassel. Which is clearly where all the hyperemotion against the 2009 draft comes from. But it's misdirected hostility to take that and scorn the entire collection of players. We can get pissed because it's not an outstanding draft, and it isn't. But drafts that are just average aren't garbage. They're just average. |
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Pioli was fired, Direckshun.
You can stop defending him. You lost.
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This team won two games because it had the league's worst head coach and the league's worst offensive coordinator and the league's worst quarterbacks.
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Jake O'Connell is the worst TE I have ever seen.
Alex Magee washed out after a year as a third round pick. Matt Cassel was the worst starting QB in the league. Tyson Jackson is one of the biggest reaches in NFL history. Javarris Williams and Quinten Lawrence did absolutely nothing in the NFL Ryan Succop is nothing more than a mediocre NFL kicker. Brown has played in one? NFL game Washington wasn't good enough to start for a completely depleted secondary and caught on absolutely nowhere else. That draft is nothing other than hot garbage. I know you originally gave it a high grade after giving the 2008 draft a ****ing C. That's the only rationale I can muster for why you'd defend such an atrocious pile of shit as that draft.
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With horrible contributions from a guy taken 3rd overall in 09 and a garbage QB dealt for an 09 2nd. T-Jack was horrible last year...HORRIBLE.
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