Chiefs Charles will get the ball more...count on it

**petegz28** · 09-14-2010, 05:03 PM

As the season progresses Charles will get the ball more. A lot of people calling in on the radio last night were bitching that he didn't carry more.

One thing people tend to forget about JC, as awesome as he is, he has a tendancy to fumble. TJ does not. Had the rain not come I think you would have seen JC carry the rock more. But with rain pouring down and a sloppy, sloppy field + a 2 TD lead I think Weis felt TJ was the better option. Not because he would bust the big plays but because there is less chance of a fumble and turnover in those conditions.

We went into a shell for the 2nd hallf because of the rain and having a lead. Maybe too much of a shell. But I think the weather and the score and JC's tendancy to let go of the ball may have had something to do with it.

Also it wa game one. We don't want Charles mangled after 1 or 2 games.

Just a thought.

**Bane** · 09-14-2010, 05:06 PM

I think they're just trying not to LJ him to death.Yes I want to see him get more touches but I can't say that they're stupid for taking it easy on him.We'll see I guess but I bet as the season goes on he will get his.

**petegz28** · 09-14-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I think they're just trying not to LJ him to death.Yes I want to see him get more touches but I can't say that they're stupid for taking it easy on him.We'll see I guess but I bet as the season goes on he will get his.

We have to be careful though. We don't want to get a tendancy that whenever Charles does get in the game he gets the ball. I think it was he who got thwarted for a 6 yard loss on the last 3rd and 4 play we had. We have to be careful not do telegraph that when JC is in he is the one getting ball.

Mr. Laz · 09-14-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

We have to be careful though. We don't want to get a tendancy that whenever Charles does get in the game he gets the ball. I think it was he who got thwarted for a 6 yard loss on the last 3rd and 4 play we had. We have to be careful not do telegraph that when JC is in he is the one getting ball.

the best way to do that is to be able to throw the dam ball

**petegz28** · 09-14-2010, 05:11 PM

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the best way to do that is to be able to throw the dam ball

True. But you and I both know the second he comes in the game and we throw the ball people will go into a temper tantrum for having Cassel throw the ball and not handing it off to JC.

**Bane** · 09-14-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

We have to be careful though. We don't want to get a tendancy that whenever Charles does get in the game he gets the ball. I think it was he who got thwarted for a 6 yard loss on the last 3rd and 4 play we had. We have to be careful not do telegraph that when JC is in he is the one getting ball.

Well to be honest,I was of the opinion that he was not a every down type RB when we drafted him.I have somewhat backed off of that because of how he has played but I still do not want to beat him to death to prove a point.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-14-2010, 05:07 PM

The Sun will supernova some day.

Ebolapox · 09-14-2010, 05:54 PM

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The Sun will supernova some day.

not really. the sun is a main sequence star (C-class if memory serves) with not enough mass to go 'nova. it'll go red giant then white dwarf.

Mr. Laz · 09-14-2010, 05:07 PM

i think they want to keep Charles around and healthy until the team is good as well.

you burn a bunch of carries now and Charles will be "dead" in a year or 2 when the team is actually ready to compete.

they better do the same with DMC

keg in kc · 09-14-2010, 05:09 PM

I don't think they were limiting his carries as much as he was a victim of circumstance. The offense went 3 and out 7 times last night, and they didn't have a drive go more than 8 plays. 49 total plays doesn't leave a whole lot of opportunities to spread around, and in the end his 12 touches, as few as that seems, were nearly 25% of the team's total. Sustain a couple more drives, and up that team total to, say, 65, and that would bring him up to 15 touches for the game, which is I'd say the lower end of where you'd want him to be (15-20).

Nero's Neptune · 09-14-2010, 08:28 PM

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I don't think they were limiting his carries as much as he was a victim of circumstance. The offense went 3 and out 7 times last night, and they didn't have a drive go more than 8 plays. 49 total plays doesn't leave a whole lot of opportunities to spread around, and in the end his 12 touches, as few as that seems, were nearly 25% of the team's total. Sustain a couple more drives, and up that team total to, say, 65, and that would bring him up to 15 touches for the game, which is I'd say the lower end of where you'd want him to be (15-20).

This was exactly my thought. We didn't really have that many offensive plays last night, and in the 2nd half they may have been worried about Charles fumbling as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get 20 touches against Cleveland is our offense is clicking.

On a side note, given the strategy of running Jones up the gut in the 2nd half, I actually wouldn't have minded seeing what Battle could do. Dude had a really nice preseason and can really run between the tackles.

**Bane** · 09-14-2010, 08:38 PM

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This was exactly my thought. We didn't really have that many offensive plays last night, and in the 2nd half they may have been worried about Charles fumbling as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get 20 touches against Cleveland is our offense is clicking.

On a side note, given the strategy of running Jones up the gut in the 2nd half, I actually wouldn't have minded seeing what Battle could do. Dude had a really nice preseason and can really run between the tackles.

I too am very interested to see what we have in that Battle kid.
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JohnnyV13 · 09-14-2010, 08:52 PM

I think this team is going to play a lot like the 2001 patriots, perhaps not in results but in how they approach a game.

They will have a bend but don't break defense, play to protect the ball on offense, and not put too much on the qb's plate.

Of course, Weiss and Crennel were the coordinators for that 2001 Pats team.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-14-2010, 09:00 PM

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I too am very interested to see what we have in that Battle kid.
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This.

Direckshun · 09-14-2010, 05:15 PM

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As the season progresses Charles will get the ball more.

I don't know where you get the courage...

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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2644127	Charles will get the ball more...count on it As the season progresses Charles will get the ball more. A lot of people calling in on the radio last night were bitching that he didn't carry more. One thing people tend to forget about JC, as awesome as he is, he has a tendancy to fumble. TJ does not. Had the rain not come I think you would have seen JC carry the rock more. But with rain pouring down and a sloppy, sloppy field + a 2 TD lead I think Weis felt TJ was the better option. Not because he would bust the big plays but because there is less chance of a fumble and turnover in those conditions. We went into a shell for the 2nd hallf because of the rain and having a lead. Maybe too much of a shell. But I think the weather and the score and JC's tendancy to let go of the ball may have had something to do with it. Also it wa game one. We don't want Charles mangled after 1 or 2 games. Just a thought.
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Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	I think they're just trying not to LJ him to death.Yes I want to see him get more touches but I can't say that they're stupid for taking it easy on him.We'll see I guess but I bet as the season goes on he will get his.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i think they want to keep Charles around and healthy until the team is good as well. you burn a bunch of carries now and Charles will be "dead" in a year or 2 when the team is actually ready to compete. they better do the same with DMC __________________
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I don't think they were limiting his carries as much as he was a victim of circumstance. The offense went 3 and out 7 times last night, and they didn't have a drive go more than 8 plays. 49 total plays doesn't leave a whole lot of opportunities to spread around, and in the end his 12 touches, as few as that seems, were nearly 25% of the team's total. Sustain a couple more drives, and up that team total to, say, 65, and that would bring him up to 15 touches for the game, which is I'd say the lower end of where you'd want him to be (15-20).
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JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $6135200	I think this team is going to play a lot like the 2001 patriots, perhaps not in results but in how they approach a game. They will have a bend but don't break defense, play to protect the ball on offense, and not put too much on the qb's plate. Of course, Weiss and Crennel were the coordinators for that 2001 Pats team.
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